Would be great but Ariza is the guy Washington wants to deal. I think they would like to keep Porter.

Joe whiffed not drafting Burke.. Could have moved Knight to the off guard...

Does anyone really believe this team is a win-now team? With a move or two? They need to tank for three years and get some young studs..

biggunsbob said:

Joe whiffed not drafting Burke.. Could have moved Knight to the off guard...

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I don't think Burke will end up being anything special. Probably a below average PG. A back court of Burke and Kinght would be way too small too.

tomdalton22 said:

I don't think Burke will end up being anything special. Probably a below average PG. A back court of Burke and Kinght would be way too small too.

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I guess... But we are not winning with these current players...something needs to be done... We shall see on Burke..

Mitchrapp said:

Does anyone really believe this team is a win-now team? With a move or two? They need to tank for three years and get some young studs..

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I believe the front office and coaching staff are in win now mode... whether the talent level would be sufficient to win given one or two realistic moves is debatable, depending on whether you mean competitive playoff team or championship contender. I am not sold on Jennings as the answer at PG, but there are already "some young studs" on the roster. This roster is actually pretty young overall, with only Billups and Bynum over 30. I don't think that Drummond, Monroe, and Smith are a good fit together, though. Smith is all but unmovable, Drummond should be going nowhere given his current production and upside. That leaves Monroe as the best realistic option to move out of those three. I can't see Monroe or Smith accepting a 6th man role, and after Monroe get's his new contract it would be unreasonable from a cap management standpoint to place either one on the bench.

I know people want to bash Dumars for the Smith signing, but I don't think he is the only problem. Monroe does not fit very well with Drummond because he doesn't have a good enough midrange game. Smith is actually better than Monroe in this regard, and is probably a better compliment to Drummond. Another good reason to consider shopping Monroe for the right return (a GOOD "3&D" perimeter player and a quality reserve big man).

JMO

food4thought said:

I believe the front office and coaching staff are in win now mode... whether the talent level would be sufficient to win given one or two realistic moves is debatable, depending on whether you mean competitive playoff team or championship contender. I am not sold on Jennings as the answer at PG, but there are already "some young studs" on the roster. This roster is actually pretty young overall, with only Billups and Bynum over 30. I don't think that Drummond, Monroe, and Smith are a good fit together, though. Smith is all but unmovable, Drummond should be going nowhere given his current production and upside. That leaves Monroe as the best realistic option to move out of those three. I can't see Monroe or Smith accepting a 6th man role, and after Monroe get's his new contract it would be unreasonable from a cap management standpoint to place either one on the bench.

I know people want to bash Dumars for the Smith signing, but I don't think he is the only problem. Monroe does not fit very well with Drummond because he doesn't have a good enough midrange game. Smith is actually better than Monroe in this regard, and is probably a better compliment to Drummond. Another good reason to consider shopping Monroe for the right return (a GOOD "3&D" perimeter player and a quality reserve big man).

JMO

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that is the problem. I think Joe D knows that this season is playoffs or he is gone. He will probably make a move that might get them to the 8 seed but will probably not be better in the long term. Like you said....this is a young team. They need to build for the next few years...not try and get to 6 games under .500 just to make a playoff appearance.

tomdalton22 said:

that is the problem. I think Joe D knows that this season is playoffs or he is gone. He will probably make a move that might get them to the 8 seed but will probably not be better in the long term. Like you said....this is a young team. They need to build for the next few years...not try and get to 6 games under .500 just to make a playoff appearance.

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Could happen. I hope not, though. Monroe is to valuable a player to give away for a slightly above average player who is most likely on the down side of his career ark ~cough~ Ariza ~cough~ (although he is making 3's at a career high percentage this year). I would swap Stuckey for Ariza, but not Monroe.

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Could happen. I hope not, though. Monroe is to valuable a player to give away for a slightly above average player who is most likely on the down side of his career ark ~cough~ Ariza ~cough~ (although he is making 3's at a career high percentage this year). I would swap Stuckey for Ariza, but not Monroe.

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I think they can get the most in return for Monroe in the off season in a sign and trade. But, Joe D knows his job is on the line and he needs to win now. He will probably trade him during the season and get less in return.

Mitchrapp said:

Does anyone really believe this team is a win-now team? With a move or two? They need to tank for three years and get some young studs..

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How are they supposed to do that when 15 other teams are? There can't be THAT many young studs to go around. For a GM that is lazy way to build a team. Dumars needs to make moves, just better than the ones he has made. There are great options staring him in the face. Unfortunately he's too stubborn to act on them. He refuses to trade Monroe, Stuckey, Villanueva; He doesn't know what this team has or needs. All he did was make two worthwhile moves in the offseason and then lay in a chair the rest of the season to catch his breath. Joe D needs to take a page out of Dave Dumbrowski's book.

greenbeerd13 said:

How are they supposed to do that when 15 other teams are? There can't be THAT many young studs to go around. For a GM that is lazy way to build a team. Dumars needs to make moves, just better than the ones he has made. There are great options staring him in the face. Unfortunately he's too stubborn to act on them. He refuses to trade Monroe, Stuckey, Villanueva; He doesn't know what this team has or needs. All he did was make two worthwhile moves in the offseason and then lay in a chair the rest of the season to catch his breath. Joe D needs to take a page out of Dave Dumbrowski's book.

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It takes two to make a trade. I don't think there are people knocking down the door pffering up great players for Monroe, Suckey & CV.

tomdalton22 said:

It takes two to make a trade. I don't think there are people knocking down the door pffering up great players for Monroe, Suckey & CV.

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Not even for Monroe at least? I'm surprised the Knicks haven't been asking for him.

greenbeerd13 said:

Not even for Monroe at least? I'm surprised the Knicks haven't been asking for him.

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who on the Knicks would you want in return for Monroe?

greenbeerd13 said:

How are they supposed to do that when 15 other teams are? There can't be THAT many young studs to go around. For a GM that is lazy way to build a team. Dumars needs to make moves, just better than the ones he has made. There are great options staring him in the face. Unfortunately he's too stubborn to act on them. He refuses to trade Monroe, Stuckey, Villanueva; He doesn't know what this team has or needs. All he did was make two worthwhile moves in the offseason and then lay in a chair the rest of the season to catch his breath. Joe D needs to take a page out of Dave Dumbrowski's book.

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True. Now I'm not much of a fan these days but this season after season of mediocrity must drive you guys crazy.

It all started when Dumars traded for Iverson.

tomdalton22 said:

who on the Knicks would you want in return for Monroe?

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Shumpert

Well maybe Shumpert and other assets, could always be a 3rd team involved

greenbeerd13 said:

Shumpert

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Shumpert sucks!