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Death for being a Christian

The most ironic thing is true Islam considers jews and christians brothers. Just proof that Islam does the whole pick-and-choose what to follow thing just as well as christians and jews do.
 
I would rather people follow the non-hateful aspects of their religion or non-religion, because even without religion people will kill for reasons that are discriminatory. You don't have to be reigious to be a bigot, right? Yet once again you choose to solely focus on your anti-religeous agenda.

Sad that you cannot just let people worship in accordance with their choice instead of under constant derision and attempts to use the internet to constantly use bullying tactics to attack religion.

Monster at least is making an effort to come from a place of respect and attempts to create a mutual respect between theists and atheists. Maybe you are as well, Champ...but it sure doesn't come across that way.
 
The most ironic thing is true Islam considers jews and christians brothers. Just proof that Islam does the whole pick-and-choose what to follow thing just as well as christians and jews do.

Fully agree with this, the dark side of religion happens when the followers get too orthodoxy and end up intolerant of anyone not like themselves. We are probably all guilty of that to varying degrees, but when one reaches the point of killing someone because they are not religious enough in accordance with one's religion, safe to say one has actually lost their true faith.

Waiting now for the inevitable Star Wars replies. :D
 
Woman has affair with married man. Her punishment is gang rape. 8 men. To make it even worse, she gets a public caning...you know, because adultery is bad...mmmkay? This is what happens when a religion or no religion (banning religion) rules a country. Leaders make their own rules, their own interpretations. Minor offenses become huge crimes. Crimes have uneven punishments. I watched a short video the other day about Iran pre-1979. It's really shocking. The women look like they'd fit in with Americans.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/06/indonesian-woman-allegedly-gang-raped-punishment-caning



An Indonesian woman who was allegedly gang-raped as a punishment for sleeping with a married man may still be caned for the affair under the Islamic sharia laws of Aceh province, an official has said.

A group of eight men allegedly carried out the sex assault last week on the 25-year-old widow at her house in Langsa, and also beat up the man with whom she is accused of having an affair.

After the attack, which also saw the couple doused with sewage, the pair were handed over to sharia law officials.

The head of Langsa's Islamic sharia law office, Ibrahim Latif, said the man, 40, and woman still face up to nine lashes of the cane in public over the affair. He told AFP: "We want the couple to be caned for violating sharia law on adultery." He added that the rapists would also be brought to justice.

Police have arrested three suspected rapists, including a 13-year old boy, while five others are on the run.

Special police enforce Islamic law in Aceh, the only province in Indonesia that has sharia. There is also a regular police force to enforce the criminal law for offences such as rape.

Aceh was granted the right to use Islamic law more than a decade ago in a bid to give the province more autonomy and end a long-running separatist insurgency.

More than 90% of Indonesians describe themselves as Muslims but most practise a moderate form of Islam.
 
The most ironic thing is true Islam considers jews and christians brothers. Just proof that Islam does the whole pick-and-choose what to follow thing just as well as christians and jews do.

what is really true islam? i think it's this crazy shit we see time and again, brutality towards their own people, abuse of women, feeling that murder is an appropriate response to cartoons or videos. I'm no fan of religion but one is much worse than the others
 
what is really true islam? i think it's this crazy shit we see time and again, brutality towards their own people, abuse of women, feeling that murder is an appropriate response to cartoons or videos. I'm no fan of religion but one is much worse than the others

I'm not one to defend a religion, but you take away religion controlled government and you have a much more peaceful religion. It was that way with Christians and it is that way with muslims now.

I hope young people in those countries are more liberal minded like Americans, because it's the only way to see real change. The old die and the young rise. I worry that all this war just makes it worse.
 
I'm not one to defend a religion, but you take away religion controlled government and you have a much more peaceful religion. It was that way with Christians and it is that way with muslims now.

I hope young people in those countries are more liberal minded like Americans, because it's the only way to see real change. The old die and the young rise. I worry that all this war just makes it worse.

We're fighting the supply side of terrorism, we need to fight the demand. For every AL queda leader we drone we drive more and more into the madrasas. There is little economic opportunity there so people are more likely to weigh the cost benefit of blowing yourself up and say fuck it, why not?
 
what is really true islam? i think it's this crazy shit we see time and again, brutality towards their own people, abuse of women, feeling that murder is an appropriate response to cartoons or videos. I'm no fan of religion but one is much worse than the others


By true Islam I mean what's in the Qur'an. But it's hard to condemn it as worse then the others because Judiasm and Christianity are just as bad. A simple read of the chapter of Leviticus if filled with as just many barbaric things. the biggest difference is we don't allow Leviticus to be translated in to our laws.

It's all perception and interpretation. Countries like Rome/Italy and Spain were just as bad during the middle ages as any Islamic state is now. So you can't really make the claim one is worse then the others.
 
We're fighting the supply side of terrorism, we need to fight the demand. For every AL queda leader we drone we drive more and more into the madrasas. There is little economic opportunity there so people are more likely to weigh the cost benefit of blowing yourself up and say fuck it, why not?

Exactly.
 
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