[color=#FF6103 said:

Monster [/color]]51-48.

Not like Obama would have signed it as it is, but still, this may be the biggest joke of a bill that I've ever seen.

"I'm sorry Ms Employee, my religious beliefs don't allow me to cover breast exams in your health insurance. Pray to God and you will be okay."

For anyone who doesn't know what this is, it would give an employer the right to deny any medical coverage to their employees because of their religious or moral beliefs.

Republicans have gone crazy.

also, for anyone who saw the post i made last night, I deleted it because I found that the source was from a site like "the onion".

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SLICK said:

Romney released a presser a few minutes ago....stating he was against it....before he was for it....he just wanted to make sure everyone knew where he stood......lol

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Monster [/color]]

SLICK said:

Romney released a presser a few minutes ago....stating he was against it....before he was for it....he just wanted to make sure everyone knew where he stood......lol

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i think that was yesterday, actually. But the guy is the ultimate flip flopper. And to be honest, he was telling the truth the first time. Romney isn't as far to the right as Santorum, not even close.

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smayschmouthfootball said:

I'm still struggling with the notion that access to health insurance is a right. Someone please explain
that one to me.

Here's a quote: "Ms. Employee, I work for a living just like you, and I am no more morally obligated to provide you with health insurance than you are to provide it for me. But, because I am an entrepreneur and you are not, I am willing to offer it as benefit of working here. You are presently free to take advantage of it, or not; that is up to you."

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smayschmouthfootball said:

I'm still struggling with the notion that access to health insurance is a right. Someone please explain
that one to me.

Here's a quote: "Ms. Employee, I work for a living just like you, and I am no more morally obligated to provide you with health insurance than you are to provide it for me. But, because I am an entrepreneur and you are not, I am willing to offer it as benefit of working here. You are presently free to take advantage of it, or not; that is up to you."

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martmay said:

[color=#FF6103 said:

Monster [/color]]

i think that was yesterday, actually. But the guy is the ultimate flip flopper. And to be honest, he was telling the truth the first time. Romney isn't as far to the right as Santorum, not even close.

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I guess the separation of church and state issue depends on the issue for Dems, eh?

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Romneybot said:

My favorite was his flip-flop over crossovers this past week

http://blogs.detroitnews.com/politics/2012/02/28/romney-rips-santorum-for-what-he-did-himself/

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Monster [/color]]

martmay said:

I guess the separation of church and state issue depends on the issue for Dems, eh?

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I'm all for rights, whether it's women's rights, minority rights, gay right, religious rights, your rights, my rights.

I see no problem in making a religious group provide full access to health benefits that non-religious groups have. If I remember correctly, the groups don't even have to pay for birth control, the insurance company does.

With the blunt bill, if you have cancer and need chemotherapy, your employer can deny that coverage because he doesn't believe in it. He believes that chemo is unnatural and that you should look to prayer. you're fucked.

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martmay said:

[color=#FF6103 said:

Monster [/color]]


I'm all for rights, whether it's women's rights, minority rights, gay right, religious rights, your rights, my rights.

I see no problem in making a religious group provide full access to health benefits that non-religious groups have. If I remember correctly, the groups don't even have to pay for birth control, the insurance company does.

With the blunt bill, if you have cancer and need chemotherapy, your employer can deny that coverage because he doesn't believe in it. He believes that chemo is unnatural and that you should look to prayer. you're fucked.

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I assume employers spell out what the plan covers??

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[color=#FF6103 said:

Monster [/color]]http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-february-28-2012/indecision-2012---mitt-romney-s---rick-santorum-s -michigan-campaigns

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smayschmouthfootball said:

I'm still struggling with the notion that access to health insurance is a right. Someone please explain
that one to me.

Here's a quote: "Ms. Employee, I work for a living just like you, and I am no more morally obligated to provide you with health insurance than you are to provide it for me. But, because I am an entrepreneur and you are not, I am willing to offer it as benefit of working here. You are presently free to take advantage of it, or not; that is up to you."

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martmay said:

[color=#FF6103 said:

Monster [/color]]http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-february-28-2012/indecision-2012---mitt-romney-s---rick-santorum-s -michigan-campaigns

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Santorum was looking for Reagan democrats in Macomb County who feel Obama is too far left

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SLICK said:

Santorum is done.....Newt shall RISE again......lol

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