Supplemental Draft

elrod817 · Jul 12, 2012

Browns nab Gordon from Baylor with a second rounder....I still they think they should have gone Blackmon/Martin, rather than Richardson/Weeden....

Mitchrapp · Jul 12, 2012

elrod817 said:
Browns nab Gordon from Baylor with a second rounder....I still they think they should have gone Blackmon/Martin, rather than Richardson/Weeden....

I heard he ran a pretty good 40. 2nd round isn't too bad.

beez · Jul 12, 2012

I think Weeden was a retarded pick...he'll have to be all pro in 3 years minimum to prove me wrong or win a superbowl in a Browns uni by the end of his career.

Mitchrapp · Jul 12, 2012

beez said:
I think Weeden was a retarded pick...he'll have to be all pro in 3 years minimum to prove me wrong or win a superbowl in a Browns uni by the end of his career.

I didn't understand it either. They could have just signed Stanton or End Zone Dan.

elrod817 · Jul 12, 2012

beez said:
I think Weeden was a retarded pick...he'll have to be all pro in 3 years minimum to prove me wrong or win a superbowl in a Browns uni by the end of his career.

I think they could have had him in round two....AND I'm still not ready to say Colt's garbage. Give him some weapons he might not be half bad.

Browns Super Bowl? That's crazy talk.

amajjd · Jul 12, 2012

This is a crazy pick. But Tom Heckert has had some very good success drafting WR. Flash Gordon will be semi productive but us Browns fans can't expect him to be more than an average rookie WR this year. After he can get a year under his belt things could be very interesting. His value can't be criticized till after the '13 season too.

As for Weeden he is going to be a huge upgrade to Colt McCoy. Im a Colt fan but he hasn't shown the ability to fit the ball into tight windows or hit guys in stride. His arm is less than avg. The only thing that Colt does better than Weeden is his mobility IMO.

Mitchrapp · Jul 12, 2012

amajjd said:
This is a crazy pick. But Tom Heckert has had some very good success drafting WR. Flash Gordon will be semi productive but us Browns fans can't expect him to be more than an average rookie WR this year. After he can get a year under his belt things could be very interesting. His value can't be criticized till after the '13 season too.

As for Weeden he is going to be a huge upgrade to Colt McCoy. Im a Colt fan but he hasn't shown the ability to fit the ball into tight windows or hit guys in stride. His arm is less than avg. The only thing that Colt does better than Weeden is his mobility IMO.

Brown fan, eh? No wonder you can relate to decades of shitty football.

amajjd · Jul 13, 2012

Mitchrapp said:
Brown fan, eh? No wonder you can relate to decades of shitty football.

Yeah but I see a change coming.
I think our GM Heckert is very good and has really changed this team over very fast. They are one of the youngest teams and are third in cap space I believe.

Diggler Cometh · Jul 13, 2012

amajjd said:
Yeah but I see a change coming.
I think our GM Heckert is very good and has really changed this team over very fast. They are one of the youngest teams and are third in cap space I believe.

Even after they drafted a 28 year old rookie QB in the 1st..:lmao: He'll be too old to play and retired in 4 years. Very good GM indeed.

amajjd · Jul 13, 2012

Diggler Cometh said:
Even after they drafted a 28 year old rookie QB in the 1st..:lmao: He'll be too old to play and retired in 4 years. Very good GM indeed.

Very funny did you read that on every outlet that didn't like the pick. That's the only thing that is a knock on the guy. Do you think he lasts till #22 if he was 22? But since he's 28 he can't play. Go watch some game tape then we can talk. The guy threw for over 4000 yards the last two years and had over 30 tds in each year too.

Diggler Cometh · Jul 13, 2012

amajjd said:
Very funny did you read that on every outlet that didn't like the pick. That's the only thing that is a knock on the guy. Do you think he lasts till #22 if he was 22? But since he's 28 he can't play. Go watch some game tape then we can talk. The guy threw for over 4000 yards the last two years and had over 30 tds in each year too.

I was waiting on draft day to see which joke of a franchise would waste a 1st on the guy. Shocker.... Publications aside I came up with this all by my self..

Why weren't Casey Keenum (Houston) and Timmy Chang (Hawaii) 1st rounders? They destroyed NCAA passing records..

I've seen him play. I've seen him throw every down to put up his numbers. System QBs are system QBs... Good luck with your scrub. He'll be out of the league in two years..

cheeno · Jul 13, 2012

In any case he can't be any worse than Blaine Gabbert. So there's that.

Diggler Cometh · Jul 13, 2012

cheeno said:
In any case he can't be any worse than Blaine Gabbert. So there's that.

Or Tim Couch, Charlie Fry, Brady Quinn or Colt McCoy.

lp4ever41 · Jul 13, 2012

cheeno said:
In any case he can't be any worse than Blaine Gabbert. So there's that.

Nah, he'll be worse than Gabbert! LMAO

amajjd · Jul 14, 2012

Diggler Cometh said:
Or Tim Couch, Charlie Fry, Brady Quinn or Colt McCoy.

Well the good thing is that Colt was the only one drafted by the current FO and he was a 3rd round pick.

I'll take the evaluation skills of Tom Heckert he has done a good job like I stated before.

zoombabyzoom · Jul 14, 2012

Browns are getting much better overall.

RB Richardson
WRs Gordon, Little, and Cribbs
OL Thomas, Mack
DL Sheard and Taylor
LB D'Qwell Jackson
DBs Brown, Haden, Ward

Some nice pieces to help rebuild a franchise

Diggler Cometh · Jul 15, 2012

amajjd said:
Well the good thing is that Colt was the only one drafted by the current FO and he was a 3rd round pick.

I'll take the evaluation skills of Tom Heckert he has done a good job like I stated before.

Basically the Browns traded Julio Jones for Weeden, Phil Taylor and Greg Little. The man's a genius....

amajjd · Jul 15, 2012

Diggler Cometh said:
Basically the Browns traded Julio Jones for Weeden, Phil Taylor and Greg Little. The man's a genius....

I'm taking it that you think that JJ is one of the best WR in the NFL, because if I had to chose I'm taking a decent WR, and good DT, and right now a rookie QB with a lot of potential over one WR. This deal also included a FB and one pick used to move up to get Trent Richardson.

I look at it like this, Greg Little had a pretty good rookie year and I don't think that JJ would have had much better stats since Colt wasn't able to get the ball down the field. Little also didn't play in '10 and he didn't have Roddie White on the other side and have Matt Ryan throwing him the ball. JJ had better stat but he missed 3 games and the talent on that team it isn't a true compairson.

I think Little won't be as big of a threat as JJ but if he can limit the drops he will be a good WR. But adding the other players to the deal it could be a steal for the Browns. If Weeden is a top half QB than it will be a steal of a deal for the Browns. I guess we will have to see.

amajjd · Jul 15, 2012

zoombabyzoom said:
Browns are getting much better overall.

RB Richardson
WRs Gordon, Little, and Cribbs
OL Thomas, Mack
DL Sheard and Taylor
LB D'Qwell Jackson
DBs Brown, Haden, Ward

Some nice pieces to help rebuild a franchise

I agree with you on 100%. I would also add Rubin and Pinkston to the mix. I really liked Pinkston last year he moved to a new position with no off season and he improved as the year went on.

I think the Browns are moving in the right direction. If weeden is a good qb they will be in the mix of the better teams by '13

Diggler Cometh · Jul 15, 2012

amajjd said:
I'm taking it that you think that JJ is one of the best WR in the NFL, because if I had to chose I'm taking a decent WR, and good DT, and right now a rookie QB with a lot of potential over one WR. This deal also included a FB and one pick used to move up to get Trent Richardson.

I look at it like this, Greg Little had a pretty good rookie year and I don't think that JJ would have had much better stats since Colt wasn't able to get the ball down the field. Little also didn't play in '10 and he didn't have Roddie White on the other side and have Matt Ryan throwing him the ball. JJ had better stat but he missed 3 games and the talent on that team it isn't a true compairson.

I think Little won't be as big of a threat as JJ but if he can limit the drops he will be a good WR. But adding the other players to the deal it could be a steal for the Browns. If Weeden is a top half QB than it will be a steal of a deal for the Browns. I guess we will have to see.

They may have used that 4th rder to move up but it's not like they couldn't pull it off with out it. And how are you mentioning Greg Little and Julio Jones in the same sentence? One of those receivers will be dominating the NFL for 10 years while the other will be at best a number 2 wide out. Average receivers can put up huge numbers on a bad team with no other options. Look at Mike Furreys numbers in 06. Where is he today?

Julio is a freak and those kind of receivers don't come around often. Think if Detroit had taken anyone other than Calvin in 07. We would have at least 2-3 more losses and miss out on the playoffs. Playmakers son. You can't pass on top talent even if you're trying to fill holes. That's the reason Detroit was so awful for so many years.

At least Cleveland got it right and made a move on Richardson. Could of had both Bama boys though.

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