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Ken Rosenthal rips Tigers Organization

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https://theathletic.com/3377830/2022/06/22/mlb-detroit-tigers-failing-season/

(Not sure if this is the full article)

Rosenthal: Tigers? mess of a season is the consequence of multiple failings by the organization

For the Tigers, the 2022 season amounts to a series of harsh reality checks, one stinging slap after another. By now, the lesson is clear: A rebuild does not end with the signing of one or two free agents, or the promotions of one or two top prospects. Even the best teams continually chip away at their deficiencies. And only through proper evaluating and deft maneuvering can a middling club like the Tigers ascend to elite.

The Tigers, 26-42 and 11 1/2 games out of first place in the weak AL Central, are far from ascendant. Injuries are not solely the reason, even though emerging star Tarik Skubal is the only member of their Opening Day rotation who is not currently on the injured or restricted list. If anything, injuries are to be expected for a team built around young pitching. Yet, the Tigers sunk to a low point last Wednesday when manager AJ Hinch, despite operating with a 10-man bullpen, concluded a 13-0 loss to the White Sox by using three position players to pitch.

Frankly, the Tigers? hitters cannot be less effective on the mound than they are in the batters? box, where almost midway through the season, they are performing at a historically futile level. The Tigers are averaging 2.88 runs per game, the fewest by any team since the 1968 White Sox. That?s right, every team for nearly 5 1/2 decades outscored the current Tigers, including those in the NL that had pitchers hitting until last season.

Of course, the Tigers are not the only club that has yet to reap the supposed benefits of rebuilding, which in their case began with a teardown in 2017. The Mariners, Royals and Marlins, all of whom anticipated improvement this season, also are disappointments. The Pirates and Orioles, even while showing signs of promise, might still be years away from contention. The Reds, Nationals and Athletics, at the moment, are simply lost causes.

The Tigers? collapse, though, is particularly exasperating. This is a team that held top-five selections in the amateur draft in each of the past four years. A team that appeared to take a step forward last season, its first under Hinch, going 69-63 after an 8-22 start to finish 77-85. A team that spent $235.5 million on four free agents while also adding catcher Tucker Barnhart and outfielder Austin Meadows in trades. And for what? The Tigers? sixth straight losing season seems all but inevitable.

?I?m as angry as anybody, more angry than anybody,? general manager Al Avila said. ?We?re all angry. And we?re all accountable ? including the players. Right now, we?re re-evaluating and scrutinizing everything in the front office, player development, scouting, our staff and our players. When this happens, it?s not person or one department or one player. This is team-wide.?

Avila concluded by saying, ?We?re all obviously working hard to turn this around. And we will.? Rival executives, however, question whether Avila is creative and savvy enough to build a consistent winner. Some in Detroit, meanwhile, wonder if Hinch might bolt, pointing to an April 2021 report that said his contract included an opt-out clause.

Avila said Hinch?s contract includes no such clause. Hinch, in his second year with the club, has never said anything to indicate he plans to abandon his long-term commitment to the organization. His contract, according to sources, runs for five years, from 2021 to 2025. Avila?s deal expires sooner, but its exact length is not known.

To some extent, the Tigers? season is a perfect storm of calamities, from injuries to young pitchers such as Casey Mize and Matt Manning to the offensive struggles of $140 million free agent Javier B?ez to the reported marital troubles of $77 million free agent Eduardo Rodr?guez, who has been on the restricted list, unpaid, since June 13.

But with B?ez, the Tigers banked on a hitter notorious for his lack of plate discipline. With Rodr?guez, they bet on a pitcher who never had led a rotation. And while hitters such as Jonathan Schoop, Jeimer Candelario and Robbie Grossman inexplicably have cratered, the Tigers also are haunted by past blunders.

Among them:

? Meager returns in trades for Justin Verlander, Nick Castellanos and J.D. Martinez, compounded by failures to move pitchers such as Michael Fulmer and Matthew Boyd when their values were highest.

? A drought of homegrown position players that predates Avila?s hiring as GM in Aug. 2015, but might be on the verge of ending with the arrivals of two top-five picks, first baseman Spencer Torkelson and center fielder Riley Greene.

? An international program that, while showing signs of improvement, has produced only one positive WAR player, closer Gregory Soto, since the trade of Willy Adames in 2014.

Avila and others with the Tigers believe the future remains bright. The 2023 rotation could include Rodr?guez, Skubal, Spencer Turnbull and some combination of Manning, Beau Brieske and Alex Faedo, with Mize possibly returning from Tommy John surgery toward the end of the season. Greene and Meadows (acquired for Isaac Paredes, who hit three homers for the Rays on Tuesday night) likely will be two of the starting outfielders. Torkelson, though he soon might require a minor-league demotion, will be at first, and B?ez at short.

On the flip side, catcher remains a position of uncertainty. The Tigers also will need to figure out whether to stick at second with Schoop, who is signed next season for $7.5 million, and at third with Candelario, who is earning $5.8 million and would appear a strong candidate for a non-tender. But they might be in position to trade a starting pitcher for a left fielder, and again will have money to spend. The team has $84.65 million committed next season, and after the expiration of Miguel Cabrera?s contract, that number drops to $51 million in 2024.

The problem, of course, is that Avila did not always spend well even when the team was in contention, as evidenced by the five-year, $110 million free-agent contract he awarded Jordan Zimmermann in Nov. 2015. Intent on filling the Tigers? longstanding hole at short last offseason, Avila discussed with free agent Carlos Correa a 10-year, $275 million structure that included multiple opt-outs and escalators, sources said. But Correa wanted $300 million-plus, and of the other available middle infielders, B?ez emerged as the most realistic target. With the exception of Correa, those others ? Corey Seager, Marcus Semien, Trevor Story ? also have performed well below their career norms.

B?ez, 29, might never fulfill his offensive promise, but eventually should be good for above-average defense and 25 to 30 homers per season. Rodr?guez, also 29, should at least be an above-average major-league starter. Yet even if those deals work out, the Tigers will have so much more to do. Eight of their top 13 prospects, according to The Athletic?s Keith Law, are from the last two drafts. The vast majority of those players, however, will not be ready to join the Tigers anytime soon.

The Tigers have had some modest successes with Rule 5 picks (Victor Reyes, Akil Baddoo), minor-league signings (Jos? Cisnero, Wily Peralta), even undrafted free agents (Jason Foley). But the low-revenue Guardians and Rays are more adept at identifying and developing above-average players, and high-revenue teams such as the Dodgers, Giants and Yankees routinely come up with significant contributors for minimal acquisition costs. Who is the Tigers? Chris Taylor? Their Mike Yastrzemski? Their Clay Holmes?

Under Avila, the Tigers upgraded their technology and built an analytics department they say now consists of 12 members. They recently began spending more on individual international players rather than spreading their money around on lesser signings. Perhaps they can move one or more of their better relievers at the deadline for returns that would increase their overall depth.

High-end pieces are in place. Resources are not a problem. But when PECOTA projected the Tigers for 67 wins and Fangraphs for 77 at the start of the season, it was a clear indication that the team, for all its high draft picks and free-agent signings, was still short on talent. And right now, with the Tigers on a 62-win pace, those projections seem optimistic.

Winning teams excel not only at evaluating players with other clubs, but also their own. The only reasonable conclusion to draw from the Tigers? mess of a season is that they are failing on both fronts.
 
good article. He forgot the past blunder of signing Miggy to a huge extension 2 years before his deal expired and right after back to back MVPs :clap:
 
https://totallytigers.wordpress.com/2022/06/30/five-for-friday-32/
FIVE FOR FRIDAY.
Totally Tigers

Over the past 2 weeks, there have been a number of national articles (and radio shows) published that evaluate the Tigers? rebuild. All critical, all pointing their fingers at GM Al Avila. All of them covered here at Totally Tigers this week.

Every piece has indicated that the Tigers have barely started to fill the many holes in their roster. That the free agents have all essentially been busts, rookies have been struggling and mid-tier players are under-performing.
Some of them indicated that next year?s roster will need even more work given that the level of talent seen this year is not viable enough to stay.

In summary, they believe the Tigers will be slipping backwards in their rebuild. More positional holes will be created next year in contrast to 2022.

So the question now to ask is which of these players will actually be part of the rebuild? Which ones deserve to stay? Which ones will become the nucleus of a competitive team?

And that is today?s topic.
 
https://totallytigers.wordpress.com/2022/07/01/saturday-survey-34/
SATURDAY SURVEY.
Totally Tigers

Over the past 2 weeks, multiple articles and radio shows have gone public with their analyses of the Tigers? rebuild. All of them have been critical of the process and the GM in charge of it.

Topics addressed included the lack of progress in prospect development, questionable roster building and poor choices in the signing of free agents.

Despite ownership spending almost half a billion dollars in added payroll just this year, the Tigers are having a worse season and on pace to lose 100 games again. The team is in their (official) 6th year of rebuilding.

We must acknowledge that the team has experienced significant injuries which has played a part in their poor performance. However, more than half of the current lineup has been significantly under-performing to the point where the team is on a pace to score the fewest runs in their entire history dating back to 1901.

On the other hand, we should also note that rebuilding is not a short process but can take years, depending upon the owner, GM and available resources.

And considering, that just hours ago, Chris Ilitch gave his ?all is well? speech about the Tigers. We will save that event, as well as all conversations about the owner, for discussion on Tuesday.

Where do you see this rebuild heading? Are the Tigers actually progressing towards becoming competitive or have they stalled?

And what about their GM, Al Avila? Is he the right person to be in charge of the rebuilding process?
That is today?s question and poll.

Is Al Avila the right GM to oversee the Tigers' rebuild?

1. Yes, give him more time.

2. No, we need a new GM now.

3. Not sure.

VOTE
 
https://totallytigers.wordpress.com/2022/07/09/deeper-discussions-32/
DEEPER DISCUSSIONS.
Totally Tigers

Over the past decade, baseball became more modern as a result of teams starting to hire younger managers and Front Office personnel who were schooled in the latest trends, theories and strategies.
The overwhelming majority of them came in from outside baseball and brought advanced degrees in sports economics, business and psychology with them. For the most part, these changes were successful.

But within the past 2 years, some teams have returned to hiring older, traditional baseball people. Joe Girardi was hired to manage the Phillies.
Tony La Russa returned to the White Sox as their manager. Dusty Baker was the solution to the Astros scandal and provided good will and balance to a team in turmoil.

And Dave Dombrowski was hired by the Phillies to be their first President of Baseball Operations who also has some responsibility for building the team?s roster. All of them in their 60?s and 70?s.

All but Baker have come under heavy fire, especially this year from both fans and baseball analysts. Girardi was fired from his job while many are calling for the same thing to happen to La Russa. He is being questioned for some highly questionable in-game moves that no longer jive with what is going on in the game.

Joe Maddon, one of baseball?s oldest managers, was also recently fired for his team?s under-performance.

Dombrowski is being criticized for building an old-fashioned roster that is high on one-dimensional hitters while ignoring defense and the bullpen.

Much of the criticism is based upon a perceived failure by these older traditionalists to keep up with the changes happening in baseball. And these changes are often rooted and supported by the findings of computer programs and advanced technology. Younger managers and GMs are much more comfortable using and explaining the results generated by computer reports. They also don?t have to get up to speed.

To offer some perspective, the majority of today?s managers are in their 40?s. The next largest group is in their early 50?s.

As for GMs, they skew much younger. Most are in their early 40?s while the next largest group is in their 30?s. Al Avila is MLB?s oldest GM. And if we were to include Dombrowski (who is not a GM but carries the roster-building duties), he would be the oldest of them all.

Tigers? manager, A. J. Hinch is 48. GM Al Avila is 63.

Today?s blog addresses this dilemma and allows readers to share their thoughts in more detail. And hopefully, to actively engage with others by responding to their posts and creating back-and-forth discussion threads. The more the merrier!

For this one blog only, you?ve got 6 sentences max to share your thoughts.
Of course, you can respond to as many other readers as you want.

TT will supply the ammunition. One thought-provoking question.
Several options provided. One hard choice to be selected. One vote.
Ready? What is your preference when it comes to hiring management?

What is your preference when it comes to hiring management?

1. Older w/lots of baseball experience.

2. Younger w/updated skills and technologically savvy.

VOTE
 
https://totallytigers.wordpress.com/2022/08/29/too-much-a-good-thing/
TOO MUCH A GOOD THING?
Totally Tigers

Ken Rosenthal continues to write excellent pieces. He was the first to nationally blow up Al Avila and how he killed the Tigers? rebuild. Last year, he earned the wrath of Commissioner Rob Manfred simply by reporting on Manfred?s moves.

This week, a thoughtful piece on Justin Verlander. One showing how he?s matured since leaving the Tigers and joining the Astros. In part, brought on by marriage, having a child and experiencing the grueling journey from injury to recovery.

JV said he?s learned to become a better teammate. To be engaged, ?more accessible,? and more one of the guys.?

Rosenthal reports that Verlander is more involved in the clubhouse and mixing more with teammates. That he?s ?a totally different guy.?

?He?s more open to helping young guys, helping the team, having team dinners, constant communication.?

Ken goes on to explain how certain players, especially top players, are self-absorbed. How they have a single-minded focus on themselves which allows them to become elite players.

Which now, after reading this, brings me back to a thought I had back in the mid 2010?s when the Tigers had MLB?s best collection of stars and were regularly playing October baseball.

Did the Tigers have too many stars? Too many egos? Too many self-centered players?

Is this the biggest reason why they could never come close to winning more than a single game in the World Series?

This team, for a number of years, contained 3 first ballot Hall of Famers. Add in a couple more who will eventually make it to Cooperstown.

They also had 5, count ?em, 5 pitchers who would win Cy Young Awards. Some of them more than once. They also had a rotation that many experts said was baseball?s best one in history.

All ended up getting rings, just not with Detroit....
 
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