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Miggys chances of winning another batting title....

hellifino

hellifino

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The way I read it, is He has 364 plate appearances as of now. He needs 502 to be Qualified.
so is 138 P.A. reachable in 41 games? would moving him up in the lineup to 2nd help?
 
He needs to average 3.365 plate appearances if he plays every game to the end of the season. Even if say he sits 2/3 games he would probably needed to average 3.5 PA to the end of the season. Right now he is off the top of my head 35 to 40 points ahead of the leading qualifiers for the Batting Title. I think unless, God forbid, he gets hurt again, he will win it.

Funny you would post this as I go through the Tigers baseball sites and found these at bybtb.
Timing is everything, so I will post them here too.
http://www.blessyouboys.com/2015/8/22/9191065/detroit-tigers-miguel-cabrera-statistics-disabled-list
Tigers' Miguel Cabrera is having a historic season in 2015.
bybtb

http://www.blessyouboys.com/2015/8/22/9191773/miguel-cabreras-swing-explained-sports-science
Miguel Cabrera's swing, explained by 'Sport Science'.
bybtb

Miggy is in a Class of a select few All-Time Greats as a Hitter.

I never thought I would see another Tigers player who was a better all-around hitter than Kaline. Al has said, Miggy is the best Tigers hitter in all his years with the Tigers. That statement includes Kaline.

Just like when Al was injured and missing games, and this summer Miggy missing the six weeks, the games weren't the same for me, and maybe some of you guys. A great hitter was missing from the lineup.
Watching such great professional hitters that are on the team we live and die with is such a treat, I/we are spoiled. The day Miggy retires will be a sad day for this old Tigers fan.
 
I've got 367 right now...303 ab's 61 walks 2 hbp and 1 sac???

I believe how it works is 3.10 per game ave..Tigers have completed 121 games thus far, that would put it at 375 right now is what he'd need to be at to qualify for the leader board again...8 short..I'd estimate he'll be back on the leader board after the next 7-8 games
 
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kalinecountry said:
He needs to average 3.365 plate appearances if he plays every game to the end of the season. Even if say he sits 2/3 games he would probably needed to average 3.5 PA to the end of the season. Right now he is off the top of my head 35 to 40 points ahead of the leading qualifiers for the Batting Title. I think unless, God forbid, he gets hurt again, he will win it.

Funny you would post this as I go through the Tigers baseball sites and found these at bybtb.
Timing is everything, so I will post them here too.
http://www.blessyouboys.com/2015/8/22/9191065/detroit-tigers-miguel-cabrera-statistics-disabled-list
Tigers' Miguel Cabrera is having a historic season in 2015.
bybtb

http://www.blessyouboys.com/2015/8/22/9191773/miguel-cabreras-swing-explained-sports-science
Miguel Cabrera's swing, explained by 'Sport Science'.
bybtb

Miggy is in a Class of a select few All-Time Greats as a Hitter.

I never thought I would see another Tigers player who was a better all-around hitter than Kaline. Al has said, Miggy is the best Tigers hitter in all his years with the Tigers. That statement includes Kaline.

Just like when Al was injured and missing games, and this summer Miggy missing the six weeks, the games weren't the same for me, and maybe some of you guys. A great hitter was missing from the lineup.
Watching such great professional hitters that are on the team we live and die with is such a treat, I/we are spoiled. The day Miggy retires will be a sad day for this old Tigers fan.
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Thanks Man.Just like Miggy, your Class all the way.











which Class, has yet to decided. lol
 
385 PA with 37 games to go. Easily within reach of 502. Miggy has been averaging 4.4 PAs per game this year. That averages to 27 games. That is just to reach 502 threshold. He could go 0-40 right now and win the batting title.
 
Rebbiv said:
385 PA with 37 games to go. Easily within reach of 502. Miggy has been averaging 4.4 PAs per game this year. That averages to 27 games. That is just to reach 502 threshold. He could go 0-40 right now and win the batting title.
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damn, thanks!
 
johnny2x2x said:
Would love to see him get another batting title.
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Would be nice to salvage SOMETHING from this season.

My positive takeaways so far in 2015.....

1. JD Martinez......legit big time middle of the order hitter.
2. JV may have one last run of productivity left.
3. A Cabrera batting title?

That's it.
 
boogerlovejoy said:
Would be nice to salvage SOMETHING from this season.

My positive takeaways so far in 2015.....

1. JD Martinez......legit big time middle of the order hitter.
2. JV may have one last run of productivity left.
3. A Cabrera batting title?

That's it.
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For me it's JD and the possibility that Iggy may be a better hitter than I thought. Of course he has been bad in August...but that happens.
 
tomdalton22 said:
For me it's JD and the possibility that Iggy may be a better hitter than I thought. Of course he has been bad in August...but that happens.
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Talk about bad....

August with at least 45 PA

A. Gose .208 BAVG .291 OBP .325 SLG .616 OPS 10.8 PA/BB

J. Iglesias .256 BAVG .299 OBP .305 SLG .604 OPS 22.0 PA/BB

V. Martinez .205 BAVG .220 OBP .372 SLG .592 OPS 41.0 PA/BB

T. Collins .254 BAVG .267 OBP .322 SLG .589 OPS 61.0 PA/BB

R. Davis .163 BAVG .196 OBP .372 SLG .568 OPS 46.0 PA/BB

J. McCann .209 BAVG .243 OBP .313 SLG .556 OPS 23.7 PA/BB


2nd Half (min 40 PA)

M. Cabrera 52 PA .500 BAVG .577 OBP .773 SLG 1.350 OPS 7.3 PA/BB

I. Kinsler 160 PA .387 BAVG .413 OBP .607 SLG 1.019 OPS 20.0 PA/BB

J.D. Martinez 154 PA .292 BAVG .364 OBP .533 SLG .896 OPS 10.9 PA/BB

N. Castellanos 136 PA .261 BAVG .346 OBP .538 SLG .883 OPS 8.5 PA/BB

Y. Cespedes 61 PA .268 BAVG .328 OBP .554 SLG .882 OPS 15.0 PA/BB

J. Marte 51 PA .244 BAVG .320 OBP .444 SLG .764 OPS 10.2 PA/BB

J. Iglesias 144 PA .292 BAVG .332 OBP .394 SLG .716 OPS 36.0 PA/BB


J. McCann 112 PA .250 BAVG .270 OBP .370 SLG .640 OPS 37.3 PA/BB

T. Collins 61 PA .254 BAVG .267 OBP .322 SLG .589 OPS 61.0 PA/BB

V. Martinez 147 PA .199 BAVG .245 OBP .324 SLG .569 OPS 29.2 PA/BB

A. Gose 122 PA .183 BAVG .264 OBP .294 SLG .558 OPS 11.1 PA/BB

R. Davis 77 PA .164 BAVG .195 OBP .329 SLG .524 OPS 38.5 PA/BB

A. Avila 67 PA .161 BAVG .299 OBP .196 SLG .495 OPS 6.1 PA/BB

A. Romine 40 PA .143 BAVG .231 OBP .171 SLG .402 OPS 19.5 PA/BB

As bad as the pitching has been, the offense is just as bad after Cabrera, Kinsler, J.D. and Nick since the break. Those walk rates are beyond terrible. And it isn't just one or two players. We will never wear down an opposing pitcher who is on their game at those rates.
 
tomdalton22 said:
For me it's JD and the possibility that Iggy may be a better hitter than I thought. Of course he has been bad in August...but that happens.
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That's a good one too.....it falls more in the line of my positive, but with ???'s category with others like.....

1. Is Alex Wilson for real? Can he do it again in '16?
2. Is the recent hot streak of Castellanos a sign of things to come or just a hot streak?
3. Can McCann improve enough on a solid rookie year to be a legit every day C?
4. Is Iggy a legit .280-.300 hitter?
5. Can Kinsler carry this tear into next year?

Things like that. There have been a few small positive things about this year.....but most of them raise as many questions as answers.
 
Rebbiv said:
Talk about bad....

August with at least 45 PA

A. Gose .208 BAVG .291 OBP .325 SLG .616 OPS 10.8 PA/BB

J. Iglesias .256 BAVG .299 OBP .305 SLG .604 OPS 22.0 PA/BB

V. Martinez .205 BAVG .220 OBP .372 SLG .592 OPS 41.0 PA/BB

T. Collins .254 BAVG .267 OBP .322 SLG .589 OPS 61.0 PA/BB

R. Davis .163 BAVG .196 OBP .372 SLG .568 OPS 46.0 PA/BB

J. McCann .209 BAVG .243 OBP .313 SLG .556 OPS 23.7 PA/BB


2nd Half (min 40 PA)

M. Cabrera 52 PA .500 BAVG .577 OBP .773 SLG 1.350 OPS 7.3 PA/BB

I. Kinsler 160 PA .387 BAVG .413 OBP .607 SLG 1.019 OPS 20.0 PA/BB

J.D. Martinez 154 PA .292 BAVG .364 OBP .533 SLG .896 OPS 10.9 PA/BB

N. Castellanos 136 PA .261 BAVG .346 OBP .538 SLG .883 OPS 8.5 PA/BB

Y. Cespedes 61 PA .268 BAVG .328 OBP .554 SLG .882 OPS 15.0 PA/BB

J. Marte 51 PA .244 BAVG .320 OBP .444 SLG .764 OPS 10.2 PA/BB

J. Iglesias 144 PA .292 BAVG .332 OBP .394 SLG .716 OPS 36.0 PA/BB


J. McCann 112 PA .250 BAVG .270 OBP .370 SLG .640 OPS 37.3 PA/BB

T. Collins 61 PA .254 BAVG .267 OBP .322 SLG .589 OPS 61.0 PA/BB

V. Martinez 147 PA .199 BAVG .245 OBP .324 SLG .569 OPS 29.2 PA/BB

A. Gose 122 PA .183 BAVG .264 OBP .294 SLG .558 OPS 11.1 PA/BB

R. Davis 77 PA .164 BAVG .195 OBP .329 SLG .524 OPS 38.5 PA/BB

A. Avila 67 PA .161 BAVG .299 OBP .196 SLG .495 OPS 6.1 PA/BB

A. Romine 40 PA .143 BAVG .231 OBP .171 SLG .402 OPS 19.5 PA/BB

As bad as the pitching has been, the offense is just as bad after Cabrera, Kinsler, J.D. and Nick since the break. Those walk rates are beyond terrible. And it isn't just one or two players. We will never wear down an opposing pitcher who is on their game at those rates.
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Of all of those guys the one that is really killing them is Victor.
 
Also, there is rule 10.22(a): If he doesn't reach 502, if adding the number of missing plate appearances as no hit at bats keeps his average the highest in the league he would still win the batting title.

So if he finishes with 482 plate appearances they would give him an 0-20 added on to his totals (502 total plate appearances), and if he still has the highest average after that he would win the batting title.

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/official_info/official_rules/official_scorer_10.jsp
 
brewer229 said:
Also, there is rule 10.22(a): If he doesn't reach 502, if adding the number of missing plate appearances as no hit at bats keeps his average the highest in the league he would still win the batting title.

So if he finishes with 482 plate appearances they would give him an 0-20 added on to his totals (502 total plate appearances), and if he still has the highest average after that he would win the batting title.

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/official_info/official_rules/official_scorer_10.jsp
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I think most of us already knew that. Hence why I included 0-40.
 
502 PA comes from 162 games x 3.1 Plate Appearances.

A player is on the Batting Average Leader board if he qualifies with 3.1 PAs per the number of games his team has played.

Currently. DET has played 125 games. 3.1 x 125 = 387.5 PA Miggy is at 385 PAs, or 3 PAs short of qualifying. In about 2-3 more games played, he should be back at the top of the list.

Kipnis currently leads with .324 BAVG. Miggy is at .371 BAVG.

If he goes
0-40 = .330 BAVG
0-45 = .325 BAVG
 
Looks like he's on pace to win another one, whether he gets to 502 or not.

But it looks like he's on pace to get to 502 anyway.
 
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