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Old 01-13-2018, 06:05 PM   #261
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Keenum and goff both sucked last year. What's the common denominator?... Jeff Fisher blows.
Keenum has sucked his whole career.....lol. Goff was a rookie. Hardly a fair comparison



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Old 01-13-2018, 06:07 PM   #262
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He was much better this year. Top 10ish. Wentz played just as good if not better with worse weapons in year 2 compared to year 9. Stafford has the issue of playing complimentary football... we put our defense in way to many bad situations.
I am CONVINCED that a big part of our issues this year are Cooter related. Our run game and play calling put us in most of those situations. No QB could overcome as many 2nd longs and 3rd and longs as we had.

Does anyone have those statistics? I would love to see where Detroit ranked in percentage of drives that had 2nd and more than 10 and 3rd and more than 10.
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Old 01-13-2018, 06:11 PM   #263
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Every other team had a shot at Keenum. A bit of luck.....sure....I look at it as a team that has no weaknesses and got the most out of their 3rd string QB. They didn't need Keenum to win games......but his surprising play got them where they're at.

To me, that's 90% good coaching and 10% luck......maybe 80/20 lol.
I can't agree with ya bro. Dominate D and a good running game. Even with Cook going down.
I do agree about the Vikes not needing Keenum to win games though. Hell, look at all the teams in the playoffs right now. They all have good to great defenses and solid running games. It's no secret that's how teams will succeed. Quinn needs to get those blueprints
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Old 01-13-2018, 06:14 PM   #264
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But it wasn't his fault.
How the fuck would you know? You don't watch. Remember?
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Old 01-13-2018, 06:45 PM   #265
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None of you know which plays were called. Cooter has made Stafford elite
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Old 01-13-2018, 07:58 PM   #266
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I am CONVINCED that a big part of our issues this year are Cooter related. Our run game and play calling put us in most of those situations. No QB could overcome as many 2nd longs and 3rd and longs as we had.

Does anyone have those statistics? I would love to see where Detroit ranked in percentage of drives that had 2nd and more than 10 and 3rd and more than 10.
No ranks on percentages, but here are some of the numbers:

3rd and 10 or more on 84 out of 223 plays (37.7%)
2nd and 10 or more on 157 out of 347 plays (45.2%)

2nd down plays: https://www.pro-football-reference.c...y=yards&down=2

3rd down plays: https://www.pro-football-reference.c...y=yards&down=3
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420 yds and 5 tds plus the lateral td to bell vs the best pass d in the nfl. Ya big ben is better than Stafford.
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Old 01-14-2018, 04:40 PM   #268
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420 yds and 5 tds plus the lateral td to bell vs the best pass d in the nfl. Ya big ben is better than Stafford.
Run game and time and ab
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Old 01-14-2018, 04:47 PM   #269
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Run game and time and ab
He had no time... and not much of a run game.

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Old 01-14-2018, 05:13 PM   #270
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None of you know which plays were called. Cooter has made Stafford elite
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