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Career Minors (age last year or last year in minors)
J.D. Martinez (25) .330 BAVG .392 OBP .543 SLG .935 OPS (.819 OPS MLB) 12.6 PA/BB
V. Martinez (24) .319 BAVG .391 OBP .487 SLG .879 OPS (.833 OPS MLB) 10.2 PA/BB
I. Kinsler (23) .299 BAVG .376 OBP .492 SLG .868 OPS (.795 OPS MLB) 11.0 PA/BB
J. Upton (19) .288 BAVG .373 OBP .481 SLG .854 OPS (.819 OPS MLB) 8.9 PA/BB
N. Castellanos (21) .303 BAVG .359 OBP .445 SLG .804 OPS (.741 OPS MLB) 12.7 PA/BB
A. Avila (22) .283 BAVG .373 OBP .425 SLG .798 OPS (.741 OPS MLB) 8.0 PA/BB
M. Cabrera (19) .286 BAVG .350 OBP .431 SLG .781 OPS (.961 OPS MLB) 12.2 PA/BB
J. Jones (24) .269 BAVG .333 OBP .443 SLG .776 OPS 13.1 PA/BB
T. Collins (26) .260 BAVG .335 OBP .416 SLG .751 OPS (.709 OPS MLB) 10.8 PA/BB
J. Hicks (26) .282 BAVG .330 OBP .418 SLG .748 OPS 16.4 PA/BB
M. Mahtook (27) .272 BAVG .338 OBP .410 SLG .748 OPS (.685 OPS MLB) 13.5 PA/BB
S. Moya (25) .254 BAVG .295 OBP .450 SLG .745 OPS (.745 OPS MLB) 20.1 PA/BB
A. Romine (26) .279 BAVG .354 OBP .367 SLG .721 OPS (.590 OPS MLB) 10.7 PA/BB
A. Gose (26) .252 BAVG .327 OBP .373 SLG .700 OPS (.656 OPS MLB) 11.8 PA/BB
J. McCann (24) .263 BAVG .313 OBP .373 SLG .686 OPS (.657 OPS MLB) 17.7 PA/BB
D. Machado (24) .246 BAVG .323 OBP .317 SLG .640 OPS (.563 OPS MLB) 10.6 PA/BB
J. Iglesias (22) .259 BAVG .308 OBP .319 SLG .627 OPS (.678 OPS MLB) 16.8 PA/BB
Based on the past 50 years of MLB and minor leagues, here are some basics\truths:
1. A player not a regular by age 25, almost never exceeds (5+ years as a regular).
2. Depending on age when first full time in MLB, a player almost never improves on his minor OPS.
3. Depending on age when first full time in MLB, a player never fully succeeds with a walk rate over 13.0 PA/BB.
So with Mahtook, you have a 27-year old with an unimpressive minor OPS and a career minor walk rate over 13.0. Those are three strikes. What metric suggests otherwise is beyond me.
J.D. Martinez (25) .330 BAVG .392 OBP .543 SLG .935 OPS (.819 OPS MLB) 12.6 PA/BB
V. Martinez (24) .319 BAVG .391 OBP .487 SLG .879 OPS (.833 OPS MLB) 10.2 PA/BB
I. Kinsler (23) .299 BAVG .376 OBP .492 SLG .868 OPS (.795 OPS MLB) 11.0 PA/BB
J. Upton (19) .288 BAVG .373 OBP .481 SLG .854 OPS (.819 OPS MLB) 8.9 PA/BB
N. Castellanos (21) .303 BAVG .359 OBP .445 SLG .804 OPS (.741 OPS MLB) 12.7 PA/BB
A. Avila (22) .283 BAVG .373 OBP .425 SLG .798 OPS (.741 OPS MLB) 8.0 PA/BB
M. Cabrera (19) .286 BAVG .350 OBP .431 SLG .781 OPS (.961 OPS MLB) 12.2 PA/BB
J. Jones (24) .269 BAVG .333 OBP .443 SLG .776 OPS 13.1 PA/BB
T. Collins (26) .260 BAVG .335 OBP .416 SLG .751 OPS (.709 OPS MLB) 10.8 PA/BB
J. Hicks (26) .282 BAVG .330 OBP .418 SLG .748 OPS 16.4 PA/BB
M. Mahtook (27) .272 BAVG .338 OBP .410 SLG .748 OPS (.685 OPS MLB) 13.5 PA/BB
S. Moya (25) .254 BAVG .295 OBP .450 SLG .745 OPS (.745 OPS MLB) 20.1 PA/BB
A. Romine (26) .279 BAVG .354 OBP .367 SLG .721 OPS (.590 OPS MLB) 10.7 PA/BB
A. Gose (26) .252 BAVG .327 OBP .373 SLG .700 OPS (.656 OPS MLB) 11.8 PA/BB
J. McCann (24) .263 BAVG .313 OBP .373 SLG .686 OPS (.657 OPS MLB) 17.7 PA/BB
D. Machado (24) .246 BAVG .323 OBP .317 SLG .640 OPS (.563 OPS MLB) 10.6 PA/BB
J. Iglesias (22) .259 BAVG .308 OBP .319 SLG .627 OPS (.678 OPS MLB) 16.8 PA/BB
Based on the past 50 years of MLB and minor leagues, here are some basics\truths:
1. A player not a regular by age 25, almost never exceeds (5+ years as a regular).
2. Depending on age when first full time in MLB, a player almost never improves on his minor OPS.
3. Depending on age when first full time in MLB, a player never fully succeeds with a walk rate over 13.0 PA/BB.
So with Mahtook, you have a 27-year old with an unimpressive minor OPS and a career minor walk rate over 13.0. Those are three strikes. What metric suggests otherwise is beyond me.
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