About time.. He was in way over his head.. Fire the whole staff except maybe Joyner..And that is a big maybe as we are approaching 60 games where we scored two or less..

biggunsbob said:

About time.. He was in way over his head.. Fire the whole staff except maybe Joyner..And that is a big maybe as we are approaching 60 games where we scored two or less..

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This... though I'd be open to Vizquel and Joyner sticking on if the new manager wanted them here. Ausmus has lost us quite a few games with bad decision making. I can't recall a single instance where the inverse is true. I didn't like the hire when it was made, particularly because he had zero prior experience. That inexperience has shown itself time and time again. Good riddance.

I am sorry, but everyone needs to go. Vizquel sucks as a base running/1st base coach evident by the bad base running this team does. And Joyner has not helped anyone with their batting woes, if anything, he has compounded the problems with certain players.

Let the new guy pick his staff. No holdovers.

Ill take Ron Gardenhire

Wish we had went after Francona in 2013 instead of keeping Jimmy for another year.

I'll rather have Bud Black than GardenforHire.

How is any of this news?

Is there anyone who didn't believe he was going to get canned after the season was over?

A good thread to bring this up.

2015 Challenges vs Overturned

Roenicke 5 vs 4, 80.0%

Mackanin 14 vs 11, 78.6%

Giraldi 25 vs 18, 72.0%

Redmond 10 vs 7, 70.0%

McClendon 33 vs 22, 66.7%

Molitor (R) 35 vs 22, 62.9%

Price 26 vs 16, 61.5%

C. Hale (R) 26 vs 16, 61.5%

Jennings (R) 18 vs 11, 61.1%

Collins 30 vs 18, 60.0%


Yost 27 vs 16, 59.3%

Hurdle 33 vs 19, 57.6%

Maddon 41 vs 23, 56.1%

Matheny 25 vs 14, 56.0%

Scioscia 35 vs 19, 54.3%

Black 13 vs 7, 53.8%

Hinch (R) 41 vs 22, 53.7%

Melvin 28 vs 15, 53.6%

Counsel (R) 21 vs 11, 52.4%

Showalter 25 vs 13, 52.0%

Bochy 33 vs 17, 51.5%

Ventura 37 vs 19, 51.4%

Weiss 41 vs 21, 51.2%

F. Gonzalez 40 vs 20, 50.0%



Sandberg 17 vs 8, 47.1%

Gibbons 41 vs 19, 46.3%

Francona 23 vs 10, 43.5%

P. Murphy (R) 20 vs 8, 40.0%

Farrell 47 vs 18, 38.3%

Banister (R) 45 vs 17, 37.8%

Ausmus 24 vs 9, 37.5%

M. Williams 22 vs 8, 36.4%

Mattingly 37 vs 13, 35.1%

K. Cash (R) 46 vs 13, 28.2%



If a MLB manager cannot win 50% of his challenges, what exactly is he doing?

It's news because the Tigers look even worse here. The way they handled DD, and now this?? If they have any decency, fire him now.

Rebbiv said:

A good thread to bring this up.

2015 Challenges vs Overturned

Roenicke 5 vs 4, 80.0%

Mackanin 14 vs 11, 78.6%

Giraldi 25 vs 18, 72.0%

Redmond 10 vs 7, 70.0%

McClendon 33 vs 22, 66.7%

Molitor (R) 35 vs 22, 62.9%

Price 26 vs 16, 61.5%

C. Hale (R) 26 vs 16, 61.5%

Jennings (R) 18 vs 11, 61.1%

Collins 30 vs 18, 60.0%


Yost 27 vs 16, 59.3%

Hurdle 33 vs 19, 57.6%

Maddon 41 vs 23, 56.1%

Matheny 25 vs 14, 56.0%

Scioscia 35 vs 19, 54.3%

Black 13 vs 7, 53.8%

Hinch (R) 41 vs 22, 53.7%

Melvin 28 vs 15, 53.6%

Counsel (R) 21 vs 11, 52.4%

Showalter 25 vs 13, 52.0%

Bochy 33 vs 17, 51.5%

Ventura 37 vs 19, 51.4%

Weiss 41 vs 21, 51.2%

F. Gonzalez 40 vs 20, 50.0%



Sandberg 17 vs 8, 47.1%

Gibbons 41 vs 19, 46.3%

Francona 23 vs 10, 43.5%

P. Murphy (R) 20 vs 8, 40.0%

Farrell 47 vs 18, 38.3%

Banister (R) 45 vs 17, 37.8%

Ausmus 24 vs 9, 37.5%

M. Williams 22 vs 8, 36.4%

Mattingly 37 vs 13, 35.1%

K. Cash (R) 46 vs 13, 28.2%



If a MLB manager cannot win 50% of his challenges, what exactly is he doing?

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If you got 'em, use 'em.

dubbsco said:

It's news because the Tigers look even worse here. The way they handled DD, and now this?? If they have any decency, fire him now.

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I'm glad they didn't. Then you get an interim who then becomes permanent. Do it all at the end.

they could hire Ronald McDonald,and I'd be happy,just as long as they fire Lamont as well.Half the shit Ausmus was trying came from Lamont whispering in his ear.

Mitchrapp said:

If you got 'em, use 'em.

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Yes...and no. Once they use it and it isn't over turned, they don't have one later. So even if they challenge early, they have to know it is going to be overturned.

Ausmus and the Tigers have used the 3rd least amount of challenges for the year. Only Francona/Indians and Williams/Nats have used less.

It also matters when the challenge was made. 5 of the 9 overturned were in very low leverage situations. Which means they had negligible effect on the game. A prime example was DET was down 5-1 in the bottom of the 8th. 3 outs to go. Cain leads off the bottom with a single and is out trying to turn it into a double. He was originally called safe. DET still loses the game and even though the challenge was overturned, it had no bearing on the game.


High Leverage Challenges vs Overturned (AL Managers only)

Giraldi 11 of 15, 73.3%

Moiltor 14 of 21, 66.7%

McClendon 11 of 18, 61.1%

Ventura 9 of 15, 60.0%

Scioscia 12 of 22, 54.5%

Francona 7 of 13, 53.8%

Hinch 13 of 25, 52.0%


Melvin 9 of 19, 47.4%

Yost 8 of 17, 47.1%

Showalter 5 of 11, 45.5%



Banister 7 of 20, 35.0%

Farrell 7 of 21, 33.3%

Gibbons 5 of 17, 29.4%

K. Cash 6 of 26, 23.1%

Ausmus 2 of 13, 15.4%


High leverage mean they had an impact on the game. Teams have replay in the dugout. They know when to challenge or not. This is an epic fail on Ausmus.

So Girardi challenges 2 more calls than Brad and gets 11 overturned compared to 2 for Brad. NY BIAS!

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So Girardi challenges 2 more calls than Brad and gets 11 overturned compared to 2 for Brad. NY BIAS!

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Yeah, right. <sarcasm>

Maybe Chicago and Ventura are getting that bias as well.

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GM Al Avila: ?I spoke to Mr. I today and to Brad and I can reconfirm that our evaluation is ongoing and decision has not been made.?

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Avila should have been fired along with DD.

I'd rather see an interim for the last month vs this guy who everyone and his mother knows is gone. They already don't respect him and don't want to play for him, why not give someone else a chance that maybe the players will listen to?

It doesn't matter at this point anyway, but letting him dangle in the stream is poor business, especially on the heels of the way DD was let go.