Tigers negotiate and extend Miggy 8 years at under $300M

kalinecountry · Mar 23, 2014

http://www.mlive.com/tigers/index.ssf/2014/03/detroit_tigers_miguel_cabrera_102.html
Detroit Tigers, Miguel Cabrera reportedly begin talks on long-term contract extension.
from Mlive

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/...er-failing-to-reach-deal-with-scherzer-032314
Tigers hope to extend Cabrera after failing to reach deal with Scherzer.
from foxsports

http://www.blessyouboys.com/2014/3/...ension-talks-with-miguel-cabrera-max-scherzer
Tigers open contract extension talks with Miguel Cabrera.
from bybtb

Thundercats · Mar 23, 2014

Yes, the player who actually deserves it. Fuck Max. I like him and all, but rejecting $24 million is a dick move considering he only had one good year.. the only year in which he's topped 200 innings. Trade Max.. he seriously isn't even worth $20 million. He is probably about equal with Sanchez in terms of worth.

Thumb · Mar 23, 2014

I like it. I know a certain someone will post soon how we should not re-sign him, but some guys you want to retire a Tiger, and Miggy is one of them. Could be the greatest right handed hitter ever when all is said and done, and you can't put a price on that. No matter how hard you like to pinch pennies.

Might as well start working on his statue for the monument area of CoPa now.

spockmaster · Mar 23, 2014

I agree, Miggy is one guy whose decline years are probably still going to be near elite. Lock him up for his career!

Mitchrapp · Mar 23, 2014

It'd be nice to have another Tiger hat in the HOF. Been awhile..

kmd47 · Mar 24, 2014

Mitchrapp said:
It'd be nice to have another Tiger hat in the HOF. Been awhile..

Well he does have a championship with Florida...........

Mitchrapp · Mar 24, 2014

kmd47 said:
Well he does have a championship with Florida...........

If he signs an extension his years far outweigh Florida. He won't take their hat just because of a title. I'm not even sure it'd would be his choice nonetheless 3 BA titles and 2 MVP..he's been better here.

Rebbiv · Mar 24, 2014

Last 3 years away (215 MLB Players qualify with 550 PAs)

OPS
1 = M. Cabrera
26 = P. Fielder
38 = C. Granderson
47 = V. Martinez
65 = S. Choo
100 = A. Jackson
102 = T. Hunter

128 = O. Infante
132 = A. Avila
153 = D. Young
161 = J. Peralta
172 = I. Kinsler
173 = A. Dirks
208 = R. Davis

ISO
5 = M. Cabrera
7 = C. Granderson
57 = P. Fielder

111 = A. Jackson
115 = I. Kinsler
128 = T. Hunter
133 = S. Choo
143 = A. Avila
149 = J. Peralta
154 = V. Martinez
161 = D. Young
173 = O. Infante
174 = A. Dirks
205 = R. Davis

wOBA
1 = M. Cabrera
28 = P. Fielder
38 = C. Granderson
41 = V. Martinez
50 = S. Choo
99 = A. Jackson
100 = T. Hunter

120 = A. Avila
134 = O. Infante
157 = D. Young
162 = J. Peralta
169 = I. Kinsler
174 = A. Dirks
208 = R. Davis

wRC+
1 = M. Cabrera
27 = P. Fielder
39 = C. Granderson
43 = V. Martinez
44 = S. Choo
99 = T. Hunter
100 = A. Jackson

119 = A. Avila
136 = O. Infante
155 = D. Young
161 = J. Peralta
168 = I. Kinsler
173 = A. Dirks
208 = R. Davis

Yearly Salaries
P. Fielder = $24.0 Mil
S. Choo = $18.6 Mil
I. Kinsler = $15.3+ Mil
C. Granderson = $15.0 Mil
J. Peralta = $13.3 Mil
T. Hunter = $13.0 Mil
V. Martinez = $12.5 Mil
O. Infante = $7.6 Mil
R. Davis = $5.0 Mil

The "excuses" given for trading Fielder and Fister and not signing players like Granderson or Choo, was so they could use that money for extensions on Cabrera and Scherzer. If they do not sign either one to an extension, this will be the greatest debacle of all time.

You could pay Miguel Cabrera $30 Mil a year and still get value from his contract. Once we traded Fister, we were somewhat committed to Scherzer and Boras knows this.

Also, where is the power? Look at ISO (Isolated Power) numbers. Now that Fielder is gone, and aside from Cabrera, we have NO ONE above average. And I am betting it will be a few years before Castellanos is above average, if ever.

Mitchrapp · Mar 24, 2014

I hope that Miggy takes a bit of a home town discount but if anyone got paid - it should be him. I just hope he doesn't want close to 30m. I hate how people get paid on past performances..they all want a deal that takes then into their late 30's..when their production falls off..

jdeb · Mar 24, 2014

And I am betting it will be a few years before Castellanos is above average, if ever.

I think he will get close to 30 in rookie year. The ball really jumps off his bat. My main concern is how he adjusts. Once scouting reports get out, that is what separates the men from the boys. No stats to back anything up, just speculative based on what I have seen in limited time.

Mitchrapp · Mar 24, 2014

jdeb said:
I think he will get close to 30 in rookie year. The ball really jumps off his bat. My main concern is how he adjusts. Once scouting reports get out, that is what separates the men from the boys. No stats to back anything up, just speculative based on what I have seen in limited time.

If he gets 30 I'd be beyond thrilled..

tomdalton22 · Mar 24, 2014

Mitchrapp said:
If he gets 30 I'd be beyond thrilled..

I will be beyond thrilled if he gets 20

jdeb · Mar 24, 2014

tomdalton22 said:
I will be beyond thrilled if he gets 20

He will have 18 by all-star break.

spockmaster · Mar 24, 2014

tomdalton22 said:
I will be beyond thrilled if he gets 20

This.

kalinecountry · Mar 24, 2014

Rebbiv said:
Last 3 years away (215 MLB Players qualify with 550 PAs)

OPS
1 = M. Cabrera
26 = P. Fielder
38 = C. Granderson
47 = V. Martinez
65 = S. Choo
100 = A. Jackson
102 = T. Hunter

128 = O. Infante
132 = A. Avila
153 = D. Young
161 = J. Peralta
172 = I. Kinsler
173 = A. Dirks
208 = R. Davis

ISO
5 = M. Cabrera
7 = C. Granderson
57 = P. Fielder

111 = A. Jackson
115 = I. Kinsler
128 = T. Hunter
133 = S. Choo
143 = A. Avila
149 = J. Peralta
154 = V. Martinez
161 = D. Young
173 = O. Infante
174 = A. Dirks
205 = R. Davis

wOBA
1 = M. Cabrera
28 = P. Fielder
38 = C. Granderson
41 = V. Martinez
50 = S. Choo
99 = A. Jackson
100 = T. Hunter

120 = A. Avila
134 = O. Infante
157 = D. Young
162 = J. Peralta
169 = I. Kinsler
174 = A. Dirks
208 = R. Davis

wRC+
1 = M. Cabrera
27 = P. Fielder
39 = C. Granderson
43 = V. Martinez
44 = S. Choo
99 = T. Hunter
100 = A. Jackson

119 = A. Avila
136 = O. Infante
155 = D. Young
161 = J. Peralta
168 = I. Kinsler
173 = A. Dirks
208 = R. Davis

Yearly Salaries
P. Fielder = $24.0 Mil
S. Choo = $18.6 Mil
I. Kinsler = $15.3+ Mil
C. Granderson = $15.0 Mil
J. Peralta = $13.3 Mil
T. Hunter = $13.0 Mil
V. Martinez = $12.5 Mil
O. Infante = $7.6 Mil
R. Davis = $5.0 Mil

The "excuses" given for trading Fielder and Fister and not signing players like Granderson or Choo, was so they could use that money for extensions on Cabrera and Scherzer. If they do not sign either one to an extension, this will be the greatest debacle of all time.

You could pay Miguel Cabrera $30 Mil a year and still get value from his contract. Once we traded Fister, we were somewhat committed to Scherzer and Boras knows this.

Also, where is the power? Look at ISO (Isolated Power) numbers. Now that Fielder is gone, and aside from Cabrera, we have NO ONE above average. And I am betting it will be a few years before Castellanos is above average, if ever.

Thanks for the numbers Kev. We all know Miggy is a Beast this is proof in numbers beyond belief. I would give Miggy at least an 8 year contract for 240M.
He has been saying the past 2/3 years he wants to finish his career as a Tiger.

swami45 · Mar 24, 2014

kalinecountry said:
Thanks for the numbers Kev. We all know Miggy is a Beast this is proof in numbers beyond belief. I would give Miggy at least an 8 year contract for 240M.
He has been saying the past 2/3 years he wants to finish his career as a Tiger.

Call me crazy but I would not want to give him more than a 5 year contract, even that is pushing it. I`d say 5 years and 150M is fair, if he wants to play anymore after that it will have to be on 1 year deals.

To many guys start falling apart once they get into thier 30`s.

spockmaster · Mar 24, 2014

swami45 said:
Call me crazy but I would not want to give him more than a 5 year contract, even that is pushing it. I`d say 5 years and 150M is fair, if he wants to play anymore after that it will have to be on 1 year deals.

To many guys start falling apart once they get into thier 30`s.

5 years is what I was hoping for too, that would put him and Verlander as FAs again together and we could readdress the situations then.

manchild98 · Mar 24, 2014

Miggy will get an 8-10 year deal. A 5 year deal would be insulting. It would be great if he took a 5 year deal but I can't see that even being a possibility. What agent is going to agree to that?

swami45 · Mar 24, 2014

manchild98 said:
Miggy will get an 8-10 year deal. A 5 year deal would be insulting. It would be great if he took a 5 year deal but I can't see that even being a possibility. What agent is going to agree to that?

I`d let him walk then, no way would I give a 33 year old a 8-10 year deal no matter who he is

manchild98 · Mar 24, 2014

swami45 said:
I`d let him walk then, no way would I give a 33 year old a 8-10 year deal no matter who he is

He'll be 31 in April. That's why I say he gets an 8-10 year offer.

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