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Tigers vs. indians 7-05-16 Game 84

Buck Farmer was sent back to Toledo after the game.

No move yet at 7:30am.
 
Since foul balls in front of the umpires cannot be reviewed, Cabrera took matters into his own hands and let Tim Timmons know he disagreed with his judgement.
Timmons, who had already ejected Cabrera twice in his career and once in Cleveland, let Cabrera state his case and ejected him for the third time.
FU Timmons.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/bullpen/Tim_Timmons
Found out from BaseballReference that the ump who threw Miggy out and for third time in his career
is from Cleveland + went to Ohio St.
 
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The most remarkable aspect so far of the 2016 season may be the Indians going 11-0 so far against the Tigers after winning 12-1 tonight.

If we hypothesize that these teams are otherwise equal (Detroit's winning percentage when not playing the Indians is over .600), the odds of one team winning 11 in a row over the other would be .00049 percent.
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Rebbiv said:
Smoke and mirrors.

DET offense against teams under .500 = 5.3 runs per game

DET offense against team over .500 = 4.4 runs per game

5.9 runs per game VS NL teams

4.7 runs per game vs AL teams

5.2 runs per game at home

4.6 runs per game away
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Det offense vs teams other than the Indians = 6.0 runs per game

Det offense vs the Indians 2.2 runs per game

The Indians pitching staff has the best BAA, the best ERA, lowest OPS, lowest WHIP, the most CG, most shutouts

Pitching is the reason the Tigers are 0-11 vs the Indians. The Indians good pitching and the Tigers bad pitching.
 
tomdalton22 said:
Det offense vs teams other than the Indians = 6.0 runs per game

Det offense vs the Indians 2.2 runs per game

The Indians pitching staff has the best BAA, the best ERA, lowest OPS, lowest WHIP, the most CG, most shutouts

Pitching is the reason the Tigers are 0-11 vs the Indians. The Indians good pitching and the Tigers bad pitching.
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I agree that DET cannot hit against CLE and CLE, whose offense is lame, can hit against DET pitching.

Common Opponent

DET 29-20 269 (5.5 runs) vs 242 (4.9 runs)
CLE 30-27 243 (4.3 runs) vs 268 (4.7 runs)

So that good pitching CLE doesn't effect common opponents like it does DET. And the better offense has the better record, not the better pitching.

Offense vs each other:

DET = 15.2 PA/G
CLE = 11.6 PA/G

AL AVG = 12.5 PA/G

CLE pitching = 12.9 PA/G

You take DET offense away from CLE pitching and they aren't that dominate. Our weak, inconsistent offense makes it that way.
 
Rebbiv said:
I agree that DET cannot hit against CLE and CLE, whose offense is lame, can hit against DET pitching.

Common Opponent

DET 29-20 269 (5.5 runs) vs 242 (4.9 runs)
CLE 30-27 243 (4.3 runs) vs 268 (4.7 runs)

So that good pitching CLE doesn't effect common opponents like it does DET. And the better offense has the better record, not the better pitching.

Offense vs each other:

DET = 15.2 PA/G
CLE = 11.6 PA/G

AL AVG = 12.5 PA/G

CLE pitching = 12.9 PA/G

You take DET offense away from CLE pitching and they aren't that dominate. Our weak, inconsistent offense makes it that way.
Click to expand...

Cleveland's ERA vs teams other than the Tigers is 3.79 which would still be 1st in the AL
 
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