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GAME 50 - Detroit Tigers vs Cleveland Guardians, Wednesday, May 20, 2026, 6:40 PM

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GAME 50 - Tigers vs Guardians
Wednesday, May 20, 2026, 6:40 PM
Comerica Park

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Drew Anderson #38 RHP
1-1 / 4.67 / 1.33

Tigers (20-29) T4 ALC -7.5 L4
  1. Colt Keith (L) 1B
  2. Kevin McGonigle (L) SS
  3. Dillon Dingler (R) DH
  4. Riley Greene (L) LF
  5. Matt Vierling (R) CF
  6. Gage Workman (L) 3B
  7. Zach McKinstry (L) RF
  8. Hao-Yu Lee (R) 2B
  9. Jake Rogers (R) C

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Tanner Bibee #28
0-6 / 4.15 / 1.35

Guardians (28-22) 1st ALC +2.0 W4
  1. Angel Martínez (S) LF
  2. José Ramírez (S) 3B
  3. Chase DeLauter (L) DH
  4. Rhys Hoskins (R) 1B
  5. Daniel Schneemann (L) 2B
  6. David Fry (R) RF
  7. Steven Kwan (L) CF
  8. Patrick Bailey (S) C
  9. Brayan Rocchio (S) SS
 
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The worst hitter in the history of MLB Zack Short and the little league. He is still without a hit and for the record Zack Short hit .141 in 2021 the first time he played for the Tigers.

Jahmai Jones and Matt Vierling getting more at bats than Riley Greene in a one run game last night.

In his 11 games this season with Toledo, Max Anderson has yet to go without a hit. Carrying a four-game Triple-A hit streak into his IL stint with Lakeland, Anderson is back with the Hen and still hitting.

The Detroit Tigers since May 4 (fourteen games) are batting .122 with RISP, which is unsurprisingly last in baseball by over 35 points (Angels .159). The team is 12-98 in that stretch after going 0-5 tonight.

This is really simple. Kevin McGonigle: April .328/.426/.509 May .213/.324/.230
April Record: 16-16 May: 4-13.
The team was mediocre but hanging around with him lighting the world on fire.
Now they are in a free fall with him struggling. What does that tell us? We were short a hitter in April but you take McGonigle out of the mix and it gets ugly fast.
Gleyber out hurts as he was getting on at a .389 clip but only had 4 extra base hits out of 144 PA’s, but as this team stands we are at a minimum short a big bat and a decent bat to really compete. This is a roster construction issue and selling yourself a story that the internal guys were better than they are collectively.
TigerMike

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HIxIopuWgAAN4jV?format=jpg&name=mediumThis guy in the link needs a swirly.
 
I asked an AI model why is the tigers offense so bad this year. It's pretty damn accurate albeit slightly not up to date with the numbers.

It has been an incredibly frustrating stretch to watch. After a late-season collapse in 2025 that carried over into this spring, the Tigers are sitting near the bottom of the AL Central with a 20-28 record

While the team's massive pitching injuries (like Tarik Skubal’s elbow surgery) are taking up most of the headlines, the offense has routinely left the team stranded. Aside from a few bright spots, the lineup is fundamentally broken right now.

1. The Core Veterans Are Crashing and Striking Out
For this offense to work, the middle-of-the-order core needs to produce. Instead, they are striking out at alarming rates and failing to make competitive contact.

  • Spencer Torkelson has been a major liability, batting just around .194 with a staggering 63 strikeouts in 160 at-bats.
  • Kerry Carpenter has cratered to a .216 average and has already racked up 40 strikeouts in limited action
2. "Running it Back" with a Flawed Lineup

President of Baseball Operations Scott Harris faced a lot of criticism for his lack of offseason additions. During the final months of 2025, Detroit's offense completely collapsed (ranking near the bottom of the league in OPS down the stretch). Instead of aggressively upgrading the bats in free agency, the front office largely chose to "run it back" with the same group. The lack of dynamic new bats has made the lineup incredibly predictable for opposing pitchers

3. Relying Far Too Heavily on Rookies
Because the veterans aren’t hitting, the offense has been completely forced to rely on young prospects. While 21-year-old rookie sensation Kevin McGonigle has been fantastic (hitting around .293 with an impressive .400 OBP), it is an incredibly tall order to ask a rookie to carry an entire MLB offense. Colt Keith has also carried his weight (hovering around .304), but the younger guys aren't getting any protection from the veteran bats around them

4. Riley Greene is Fighting Alone
Riley Greene is having a spectacular season, batting .317 / .418 / .490, but baseball is a team sport. Because Torkelson, Carpenter, and the bottom of the order are providing zero protection, opposing pitchers can choose to pitch around Greene or attack the heavily flawed hitters right behind him. The team simply lacks the depth to capitalize on the few times Greene does get on base.

The Verdict: The Tigers' front office bet on internal progression and "patience" from a lineup that proved it was broken at the end of last year. Right now, a lack of plate discipline, alarming strikeout rates from their power hitters, and a total lack of depth are spoiling any chance of capitalizing on their young talent.
 
It's 5:12 PM and the Tigers have not named a starting pitcher yet.
 
4 roster changes Tigers fans want to see Scott Harris make right now.
Please. Anything is better than this.
MCBTB

I agree with all of the above.

Tigers’ focus on returning pitchers distracts from real problem sinking Detroit right now.
The problem hasn't been pitching.
MCBTB
 
4 roster changes Tigers fans want to see Scott Harris make right now.
Please. Anything is better than this.
MCBTB

I agree with all of the above.

Tigers’ focus on returning pitchers distracts from real problem sinking Detroit right now.
The problem hasn't been pitching.
MCBTB
 
4 roster changes Tigers fans want to see Scott Harris make right now.
Please. Anything is better than this.
MCBTB

I agree with all of the above.

Tigers’ focus on returning pitchers distracts from real problem sinking Detroit right now.
The problem hasn't been pitching.
MCBTB
The problem is one of hanging on to marginal players in the lineup that are exactly that: marginal. Said marginal players are all in slumps right now, and if we factor in the injuries, and we don't even have choices beyond these three righthanders on the bench with a left handed pitcher and vice versa. I'm sure they didn't expect all of this to cascade, but hiring Zach Short instead of promoting one of their prospects didn't really make any sense beyond the level of putting the pieces together in a jigsaw puzzle. I guess it allows them to hold on to options for a longer time, but when the end result is completely ineffective playing, how do you justify it?
 
Sigh
This team is a hard watch.
Workman throw pulls colt off the bag.
 
The problem is one of hanging on to marginal players in the lineup that are exactly that: marginal. Said marginal players are all in slumps right now, and if we factor in the injuries, and we don't even have choices beyond these three righthanders on the bench with a left handed pitcher and vice versa. I'm sure they didn't expect all of this to cascade, but hiring Zach Short instead of promoting one of their prospects didn't really make any sense beyond the level of putting the pieces together in a jigsaw puzzle. I guess it allows them to hold on to options for a longer time, but when the end result is completely ineffective playing, how do you justify it?
It worries me. Maybe we really don’t have many prospects they like.
Because you are right. It makes zero sense to start Short in any games at all.
 
This is the issue having players play multiple spots on the infield .
Keith isn't any good fielding at any of them.
 
Lee is just not a smart baseball player.
Hey Lee . The ball is in front of you.
It did not kick away from the players.
wtf are you doing you slow **** ?

Rogers swings at 1st pitch >. Out
Keith swings at 1st pitch >. Out

Please fire the hitting coaches.
 
when are they gonna change the arbys promo from 3 runs to 3 hits.

Cause i dont see 3 runs in the teams future anytime soon.
 
All Jansen does is throw meat pitches.. i am expecting an implosion but hoping for an out . Plus he cant hold runners.
Im holding my breath . Sigh .

Can we score three runs please. Our Pen needs it.
 
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