Jesus Christ, Sparty

[Gulo Blue]

if anyone should be embarrassed, it's you for writing this. If you followed the thread and came to this conclusion, you're showing the same bias as the knuckleheads who started talking about culture in the first place.

Also, you should be embarrassed for dismissing his comments as horrible, but just a symptom of anger in defense of his friend. What if nobody did anything about it and she continued to pursue justice and Lewan did harm her in some way? He's clearly demonstrated he has a temper and a propensity for violence - and is probably or at least at 19, was probably extremely narcissistic to boot. So yeah, I do think he's dumb enough to make a threat to his friends (what you call a public announcement) and carry through on it to some level. It's actually so easy to pick apart this post that I'm surprised it came from you and not michchamp or dubbs.

What on Earth are you talking about? When did I dismiss anything? I didn't. Pointing out that something ugly was motivated by anger rather than guilt is not dismissive.

You think this is easy to pick apart because you read everything incorrectly and rely on hypothetical attacks that never happened. Point is, along with all the BS biased twisting of stories to widen the gap between fanbases from something healthy and about sports to something ugly where people actually think the people on the other side of the road are bad people, you're pushing the envelope with statements about us "sending Taylor Lewan to intimidate the victim".

 

[hungry]

What on Earth are you talking about? When did I dismiss anything? I didn't. Pointing out that something ugly was motivated by anger rather than guilt is not dismissive.

You think this is easy to pick apart because you read everything incorrectly and rely on hypothetical attacks that never happened. Point is, along with all the BS biased twisting of stories to widen the gap between fanbases from something healthy and about sports to something ugly where people actually think the people on the other side of the road are bad people, you're pushing the envelope with statements about us "sending Taylor Lewan to intimidate the victim".

He isn't here to discuss things. He is here to argue. That's it

Monster or someone just needs to zap this thread already. It was started when rumors of possible arrests were swirling and now it is about an alleged sexual assault. There is no "winning" in this discussion. Time to just kill it and see what shakes out.

Plus, I hate the thread title.

 

[Gulo Blue]

He isn't here to discuss things. He is here to argue. That's it

Monster or someone just needs to zap this thread already. It was started when rumors of possible arrests were swirling and now it is about an alleged sexual assault. There is no "winning" in this discussion. Time to just kill it and see what shakes out.

Plus, I hate the thread title.

Agreed. These arguments are so stupid.

"People that like your team are in favor of sexual assault."

"Nun-uh. You're the pro-rape fanbase."

 

[wlvrnstlr4life]

He isn't here to discuss things. He is here to argue. That's it

Monster or someone just needs to zap this thread already. It was started when rumors of possible arrests were swirling and now it is about an alleged sexual assault. There is no "winning" in this discussion. Time to just kill it and see what shakes out.

Plus, I hate the thread title.

The thread title is reactionary. There is a whole slew of shit going on over there(not just alleged sex assault) that could be very bad for that program. Their recruiting class was a disaster and some folks may not be playing next year or even with the team when all this shakes out.

 

[Spartanmack]

What on Earth are you talking about? When did I dismiss anything? I didn't. Pointing out that something ugly was motivated by anger rather than guilt is not dismissive.

You think this is easy to pick apart because you read everything incorrectly and rely on hypothetical attacks that never happened. Point is, along with all the BS biased twisting of stories to widen the gap between fanbases from something healthy and about sports to something ugly where people actually think the people on the other side of the road are bad people, you're pushing the envelope with statements about us "sending Taylor Lewan to intimidate the victim".

you're the one who read things incorrectly and then made a bunch of stupid arguments to defend Lewan which wasn't the point of my post. People made dumb comments about a culture problem when the only thing they know for sure about the incident is the suspects have been suspended and removed from campus housing by the University while the police investigate the alleged crime. I simply pointed out that people from michigan, where the university mishandled a case of actual sexual assault, shouldn't be jumping to conclusions about "culture" problems at MSU particularly when MSU seems to be handling this isolated incident the right way from the very beginning.

You want to start a stupid argument, say a bunch of stupid stuff to defend a bad guy, that's on you, not me.

 

[Spartanmack]

He isn't here to discuss things. He is here to argue. That's it

Monster or someone just needs to zap this thread already. It was started when rumors of possible arrests were swirling and now it is about an alleged sexual assault. There is no "winning" in this discussion. Time to just kill it and see what shakes out.

Plus, I hate the thread title.

yeah, people who jump to conclusions about culture problems without any evidence of such are just here to discuss and people who point out how stupid it is to say that are here to argue. That's brilliant.

 

[Gulo Blue]

you're the one who read things incorrectly and then made a bunch of stupid arguments to defend Lewan which wasn't the point of my post. People made dumb comments about a culture problem when the only thing they know for sure about the incident is the suspects have been suspended and removed from campus housing by the University while the police investigate the alleged crime. I simply pointed out that people from michigan, where the university mishandled a case of actual sexual assault, shouldn't be jumping to conclusions about "culture" problems at MSU particularly when MSU seems to be handling this isolated incident the right way from the very beginning.

You want to start a stupid argument, say a bunch of stupid stuff to defend a bad guy, that's on you, not me.

Maybe you're right. I must be reading things incorrectly. Because what is this supposed to mean?

"...and then made a bunch of stupid arguments to defend Lewan which wasn't the point of my post."

So please. Tell me what I misread.

 

[tinselwolverine]

Early on in this thread had kind of taken the shape of a de facto signing day thread as a signing day thread haven't actually been started by anyone.

But since then it has devolved into the usual horseshit.

 

[hungry]

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/ne...air-gymnasts-alleging-abuse-msu-doc/98049734/

In case anyone is interested, 60 minutes is going to do a show on the MSU gymnastics situation.

 

[gotime909]

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/ne...air-gymnasts-alleging-abuse-msu-doc/98049734/

In case anyone is interested, 60 minutes is going to do a show on the MSU gymnastics situation.

and your last post was to kill this thread

 

[wlvrnstlr4life]

Reschke officially gone https://www.google.com/amp/amp.mlive.com/v1/articles/20208755/michigan_state_lb_jon_reschke_3.amp