Tigers sign LHP Matt Moore to one-year contract

[Mitchrapp]

He's a bum until proven otherwise. You always said at 25-26 they are what they are.. You also say "low sample size."

 

[food4thought]

This is a lottery ticket, nothing more (pun intended). If he regains anything resembling the form he had before TJ surgery, he nets us a prospect or two. If he doesn't, we want to lose games anyways, so we can pick at or near the top of the draft.

 

[lonesometiger]

A problem with drafting higher, It's more money to sign them. And signing three no ones, which the Tigers seem to do too much of, is throwing money away. Losing games can not help the value of the Team. And 14 m's are going to JV and out of the game Prince. Which amounts to paying 6 m's to a second baseman we do not have anymore that got a WS, here in 2018. This team has traded its future for now, and now is yesterday past and then some. There really is no good choices these days. Could do a complete Seattle tear down. Who's out there that could take on Zimmerman, Cabrera, contracts!?. Hey Wilson could have been sent with Cabrera on a trade. WTH IMO team is getting beyond help.

 

[Mitchrapp]

A problem with drafting higher, It's more money to sign them. And signing three no ones, which the Tigers seem to do too much of, is throwing money away. Losing games can not help the value of the Team. And 14 m's are going to JV and out of the game Prince. Which amounts to paying 6 m's to a second baseman we do not have anymore that got a WS, here in 2018. This team has traded its future for now, and now is yesterday past and then some. There really is no good choices these days. Could do a complete Seattle tear down. Who's out there that could take on Zimmerman, Cabrera, contracts!?. Hey Wilson could have been sent with Cabrera on a trade. WTH IMO team is getting beyond help.

I'm not in favor of tanking but the money is allotted for the draft already and the worse you are the more you get. Not sure how that effects the money owed to JV and Kinsler.. Separate issue.

 

[tomdalton22]

A problem with drafting higher, It's more money to sign them. And signing three no ones, which the Tigers seem to do too much of, is throwing money away. Losing games can not help the value of the Team. And 14 m's are going to JV and out of the game Prince. Which amounts to paying 6 m's to a second baseman we do not have anymore that got a WS, here in 2018. This team has traded its future for now, and now is yesterday past and then some. There really is no good choices these days. Could do a complete Seattle tear down. Who's out there that could take on Zimmerman, Cabrera, contracts!?. Hey Wilson could have been sent with Cabrera on a trade. WTH IMO team is getting beyond help.

It's just going to take time and luck. Time to get rid of the older players and their bloated contracts and some luck in the draft with lucky picks or one of those generational players at the top of the draft.

 

[Rebbiv]

It's just going to take time and luck. Time to get rid of the older players and their bloated contracts and some luck in the draft with lucky picks or one of those generational players at the top of the draft.

Why is it some teams have all the luck?

 

[Mitchrapp]

Why is it some teams have all the luck?

Could be just better scouting.

 

[tomdalton22]

Why is it some teams have all the luck?

kind of depends on the year of the draft. Some years there are generational type of talent at the top of the draft, some years, not so much. Even most of the "can't miss" prospects don't pan out.

 

[Rebbiv]

kind of depends on the year of the draft. Some years there are generational type of talent at the top of the draft, some years, not so much. Even most of the "can't miss" prospects don't pan out.

But it isn't draft dependent. It is just certain teams (e.g. DET and David Chadd).

 

[tomdalton22]

But it isn't draft dependent. It is just certain teams (e.g. DET and David Chadd).

I'm not saying they have done a good job...they haven't. But I'm sure other teams are doing just as poorly...we just don't follow those teams. The "hit rate" for drafting baseball players is very low. I read that only 10% of players that are drafted actually play in the major leagues.

 

[Rebbiv]

I'm not saying they have done a good job...they haven't. But I'm sure other teams are doing just as poorly...we just don't follow those teams. The "hit rate" for drafting baseball players is very low. I read that only 10% of players that are drafted actually play in the major leagues.

1st round
All-time great

3.86% (4-yr)
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4.28% (HS)
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0.00% (JC)
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Superstar

19.32% (4-yr)
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15.51% (HS)
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22.22% (JC)
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Occasional All-Star

10.14% (4-yr)
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9.09% (HS)
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0.00% (JC)
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Starter-Solid Regular

6.28% (4-yr)
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5.88% (HS)
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0.00% (JC)
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Part-time player

12.08% (4-yr)
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6.42% (HS)
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0.00% (JC)
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Bench warmer

28.02% (4-yr)
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20.86% (HS)
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11.11% (JC)
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Minor leaguer

20.29% (4-yr)
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37.97% (HS)
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66.67% (JC)

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[Rebbiv]

Basically, here is 1st round rough estimates:


4-yr = 80% MLB player


HS = 66.6% MLB player


JC = 33.3% MLB player


Each round goes downhill from there. And yes, year to year changes some success rates, but that is more about teams drafting a HS or JC player higher than what they should have been drafted (Derek Hill).

 

[kalinecountry]

https://www.mlb.com/tigers/news/matt-moore-signs-1-year-deal-with-tigers/c-301440158
Matt Moore, Tigers agree to 1-year deal.
Tigers official site