First real GAllup Poll of 2012 race

[Slick]

Using historical data, as things stand, and if they remain as they are, Obama loses. Right now, using this data, the most likely outcome is a Romney landslide. There is 7 months or so to go and things can change and there have been outlier elections before (1936, 1948), so anything is possible.

I'd check your electoral math ....Dems have 242 pretty much locked to the Repubs 188....leaving 104 up for grabs....Romneys path to the White House has a MUST win Florida or it's over even as early as now.

Obama has the much better electoral path , he has a few different scenarios to get to the 270 unlike Mittens.

 

[cheeno]

I'd check your electoral math ....Dems have 242 pretty much locked to the Repubs 188....leaving 104 up for grabs....Romneys path to the White House has a MUST win Florida or it's over even as early as now.

Obama has the much better electoral path , he has a few different scenarios to get to the 270 unlike Mittens.

Rubioooooo!

 

[Slick]

Rubioooooo!

Rubio has some baggage...but would be an interesting choice , early word is Romney is looking for someone with a ton of experience like Obama did when he went with Biden.

John Kyl has been floated the last day or so as have the other same names as usual..Chris Christie , Paul Ryan , Condeleeza Rice and Rick Santorum.

 

[Thumb]

Rubioooooo!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Um8mMa5w41A

 

[Thumb]

Using historical data, as things stand, and if they remain as they are, Obama loses. Right now, using this data, the most likely outcome is a Romney landslide. There is 7 months or so to go and things can change and there have been outlier elections before (1936, 1948), so anything is possible.

No outcome involving a landslide is even remotely likely.

The country is too divided for anyone to win in a landslide.

 

[cheeno]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Um8mMa5w41A

You nailed it Thumb.

 

[elrod817]

$1,000 on 2012?????

You serious? I don't even like Barry and with a grand on the line I still won't vote for him, but I think I might take you up on that wager if you mean it.

 

[Slick]

Rubioooooo!

Mittens numbers drop in Florida with Rubio on the ticket.


http://www.politicker.com/2012/04/17/pollsters-say-marco-rubio-would-hurt-romney-in-florida/

 

[cheeno]

Mittens numbers drop in Florida with Rubio on the ticket.


http://www.politicker.com/2012/04/17/pollsters-say-marco-rubio-would-hurt-romney-in-florida/

The same poll predicted Jeb Bush would boost Mittens in FLA.

 

[Slick]

The same poll predicted Jeb Bush would boost Mittens in FLA.

Jeb Bush would probably boost him...he is very well liked in Fla , and is not a Tea Party member like Rubio.

Jeb's got 2016 ambitions though...he wants no part of Mitt beyond a tepid endorsement.


A Romney/Bush ticket would narrow Obama’s advantage to 49-46, within the poll’s 3.7 percent margin of error. The survey of 700 Florida voters was taken Thursday through Sunday.
The Obama/Joe Biden ticket holds a 50-43 lead over Romney/Rubio, a 51-40 advantage over Romney/Scott and a 50-40 lead over Romney/West.
PPP’s last Florida polls testing Obama vs. Romney showed the president with a 1-point lead in December and September

 

[FBkimmy]

It's bad when a Gallup poll shows the Republican with the edge. That means Stinky is probably down 10% at least.

 

[johnny2x2x]

So do we ignore the Gallup poll now that it corrected itself and is showing Obama with a 3 point lead? Poll of Polls has Obama with a little better than a 3 point lead and Intrade has him as a 3-2 favorite for reelection in November.

Mitt got a nice little bounce from securing the nomination though.

 

[tsmith7559]

So do we ignore the Gallup poll now that it corrected itself and is showing Obama with a 3 point lead? Poll of Polls has Obama with a little better than a 3 point lead and Intrade has him as a 3-2 favorite for reelection in November.

Mitt got a nice little bounce from securing the nomination though.

bounce??? LOL...... he will get a bigger bounce after the convention, unlike Obama who doesn't have a very positive vision for the country other than class warfare and wealth distribution. When you announce the campaign will be nothing but negative ads....you're in trouble as a condidate

 

[johnny2x2x]

Gallup Poll now has Obama thrashing Rmoney by 7 points, only up by 4 points in the poll of polls though.

Obama also cracked 50% on job approval too. Guess Gallup is total garbage now that they have poll results that upset Connies.

 

[Thumb]

bounce??? LOL...... he will get a bigger bounce after the convention, unlike Obama who doesn't have a very positive vision for the country other than class warfare and wealth distribution. When you announce the campaign will be nothing but negative ads....you're in trouble as a condidate

No, you're in trouble as a candidate when you can't debate the issues with the incumbent because your history shows you flip/flop on the issues to suit the audience you're speaking to, or that the incumbents policies are so similar to your own, you would be attacking yourself to bring them up.

The right is going to have to dig and dig for some dirt, or else Romney is toast after the first debate.

 

[tsmith7559]

No, you're in trouble as a candidate when you can't debate the issues with the incumbent because your history shows you flip/flop on the issues to suit the audience you're speaking to, or that the incumbents policies are so similar to your own, you would be attacking yourself to bring them up.

The right is going to have to dig and dig for some dirt, or else Romney is toast after the first debate.

Obama without a teleprompter is toast...Can't wait for Oabama to blame Bush for everything in his first 4 years as Pres.

 

[Thumb]

Obama without a teleprompter is toast...Can't wait for Oabama to blame Bush for everything in his first 4 years as Pres.

LOL, so was Bush.

Anyone else remember the debate he did where it looked like he was getting answers from a wireless receiver?

Though I don't think Obama needs a teleprompter, no matter what he can keep throwing everything back at Mittens.

 

[Slick]

dont remember a teleprompter when he schooled Old Man McCain...lol

 

[Slick]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ao5V66m5FaA&feature=related


lol...the Old Man at 47 seconds and on is priceless.

 

[tsmith7559]

dont remember a teleprompter when he schooled Old Man McCain...lol

McCain decided he was happy with just the GOP nomination, he didnt campaign hard at all, he declared not to attack Obama for whatever reason