Mark Jackson may be out in GS

[michiganalex]

I am currently watching First Take on ESPN. they are talking the Mark Jackson may be out as GS head coach. Talking about how he is on the outs with the upper ppl. Stephen A Smith saying how tragic it would be if he were let go.

If he does get let go at Golden State, would u want him as Piston head coach?

 

[Rebbiv]

Nope. Just another nobody

 

[greenbeerd13]

Tom Gores would rather sign the GS athletic trainer to be head coach.

 

[xer0]

Jackson is a joke of a coach, no thanks. Before you start citing records take a look at the talent on that roster.

 

[dubbsco]

Take a look at the talent on almost every roster in the West. Improvement from year one to three. Took one of the best teams in the NBA to a game 7, and could have very well stole that game. Not exactly sure why he got booted. Who else is out there that screams hire me?

 

[biggunsbob]

I say get him.... If not him go get Bill... I could care less if any player likes the coach... If they respect him and win that is all I want... I heard other wise on the radio today... The players love playing for Mark but management hates him...

 

[michiganalex]

Agreed

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[xer0]

The Golden State Warriors coach wasn’t talking to his players about preparing for Monday’s Game 2 of his team’s first-round series against the Clippers at Staples Center in which Golden State leads, 1-0. Instead, Jackson was speaking on an elevated platform at True Love Worship Center International. At this multi-cultural, non-denominational church he and his wife, former R&B singer Desiree Jackson, were delivering respective emotional songs and sermons through two hours, an experience Warriors guard Stephen Curry described as “not your typical Easter service.”

source : http://www.dailynews.com/sports/201...jackson-keeping-the-faith-through-uncertainty

Warriors got blown out by the Clippers in Game 2 and go on to lose the series 4-3.

Clearly a guy who cares more about being a preacher than a REAL NBA coach.

I don't want this loser anywhere NEAR the Pistons.

He should just go be a preacher and stay the fuck outta the NBA. He sucks as a commentator too.

 

[xer0]

https://twitter.com/kevinmdraper/status/463771081242075136/photo/1

Jackson had rubbed too many people within the organization the wrong way. It wasn't just about philosophical differences between he and the owner Joe Lacob, or the two assistant coaches. He told assistant GM Keith Lacob, the owner's son, not to talk to his assistant coaches. He didn't want Jerry West in practice. Many staffers and non-basketball operatives reported feeling uncomfortable around Jackson. Some of it was his defensiveness, some of it was his religious overtones that are just a part of Jackson the man, some of it is his skepticism about others' agenda.

For those that wanted more insight on why Jackson was fired, clearly wasn't 100% performance oriented.

He comes off like a smug, control freak.

Fuck Mark Jackson.

 

[xer0]

More reasons why Jackson is a POS.

It was probably not at the top of the list, but was probably on the list. I don’t know if Jackson’s strong, strong religious beliefs alienated anyone in the building. I’ve heard that the team wasn’t happy that he made it a priority to get back to his LA-based church to preach as often as possible. I’ve heard that he occasionally referred to individuals he didn’t like as “the devil.”

http://blog.sfgate.com/killion/2014...ious-views-an-issue-with-warriors/#23116101=0

 

[biggunsbob]

Well agree I don't want a over preachy guy... I prefer Bill but it appears he will never get a look in Detroit which makes no sense at all to me.. Hopefully he will.

Mark Jackson's record at GS..
23-43
47-35
51-31
But he was doing something right. As a coach.. As GS was shit before he got there..

 

[xer0]

Not the same team though bob.

The year before Jackson took over Keith Smart won 36 games with the same team. As you noted Jackson's first year taking over won ONLY 23 games.

Jackson had the luxury of coaching much better rosters, including players like Klay Thompson (elite shooter and good peremiter D), Andrew Bogut (solid Defensive anchor), Iguodala (versatile, elite peremiter D) Dramond Green (smart player, leader) Jarret Jack (one of the best backup PG's in the NBA) etc.

They got by on Curry and Thompson ascension as players and having good fitting roster pieces around them, they were bound to win 50 with that kind of talent with me or you coaching them.

Jackson's impact on the team is largely through his motivational speaches and not his X's and O's, this is well documented. He's also chased out some of his assistant coaches that didn't get agree with his philosophies.

There's alot of dirt on this guy if you research about it, he's not a guy I would want coaching my basketball team.

He's a narcissistic, hypocritical, charlatan.

 

[dubbsco]

Let's not make the Golden State roster out to be Celtics circa 1970. They have a couple of real nice shooters, and then some solid pieces that fit around it. They aren't stacked by any stretch of the imagination.

The guy coached three years, went from 23 to 47 to 51 wins. The players apparently loved playing for the dude. But, the management probably got uncomfortable that he's a pretty religious dude, and the nature of the NBA is win a title in year 2 or you are out. It also didn't help his case that he coached in a stacked conference.

Honestly, I'm not trying to build a case for him being Pistons coach, because I don't care either way who they get, my passion for Pistons basketball has absolutely faded. But, Mark Jackson got a raw deal IMO at GS. Guy took them to game 7 against a team that can very well win the whole thing, and improved every year.

 

[dubbsco]

And the overall consensus by the talking heads and the fans is that it was a horrible move. You have to look hard to find people saying, 'yeah, glad we got rid of this guy.'

 

[biggunsbob]

Well some players are now coming out and saying his preaching was getting in the way from time to time... I just want the Pistons back in the playoffs.... I hope Bill gets he job..

 

[xer0]

Let's not make the Golden State roster out to be Celtics circa 1970. They have a couple of real nice shooters, and then some solid pieces that fit around it. They aren't stacked by any stretch of the imagination.

The guy coached three years, went from 23 to 47 to 51 wins. The players apparently loved playing for the dude. But, the management probably got uncomfortable that he's a pretty religious dude, and the nature of the NBA is win a title in year 2 or you are out. It also didn't help his case that he coached in a stacked conference.

Honestly, I'm not trying to build a case for him being Pistons coach, because I don't care either way who they get, my passion for Pistons basketball has absolutely faded. But, Mark Jackson got a raw deal IMO at GS. Guy took them to game 7 against a team that can very well win the whole thing, and improved every year.

They got WORSE the 1st year he coached there. Like I pointed out, Keith Smart won 36 games (more than Jackson) with the SAME TEAM.

Any improvements they made were due to the drafting, development of Curry/Thompson (one of the top backcourts in all of the NBA, period) and the GM adding solid fitting pieces around those guys with trades (Jackson had ZIP to do with any of that).

He didn't get a raw deal, they got worse from last year even with a better record. They lost in the 1st round, after expectations were increased from losing to the Spurs in the 2nd round the previous year.

Jackson's decision to preach instead of getting his team ready for game 2 (which turned out to be a BLOWOUT for LA) cost his team the series.

Based on the results combined with his narcissism, his attitude toward management and staff that work within the organization makes him deserving to be fired, and he should not get another job coaching in the NBA after he showed his true colors.

There is also plenty of dirt on this guy if you care to research it, he cares more about being a preacher and pushing his religion onto others than he cares about his own coaching job.

 

[xer0]

Well some players are now coming out and saying his preaching was getting in the way from time to time... I just want the Pistons back in the playoffs.... I hope Bill gets he job..

Yep, most notably was Andrew Bogut, who was ostracized by Jackson for not joining his prayer sessions.

I'm not sure what to think about Laimbeer, since we keep hiring these guys who have not coached at the NBA level and they keep failing. I'm not sure if his brash attitude would catch on to these primadonna bitches that comprise today's NBA.

I'd first try to go after Stan Van Gundy, George Karl, or Lionel Hollins in that order.

I don't want Jackson anywhere near this franchise.

 

[af1991]

What is Larry Brown doing these days?

 

[dubbsco]

Using your logic, I could then attribute any improvement in a team to the personnel being placed around him, and not to the coaching. So, if that's the case, and we are going with that logic, we can't argue any further about this.

Yeah, he lost to a team that was caught up in a whirlwind of emotions, and was playing with almost an entire NBA rooting for them to win and prove they could overcome anything. Losing in a 7 game set to the a team that could very well go on to win the whole thing is not a reason to have a knee-jerk reaction and ship the guy out. He won 50 games in his third year, and

I'm sorry, but the Golden State Warriors are not some storied franchise. The west is absolutely lethal, and navigated that team, like him or not, to a 50 win season in his third year. I'm also quite confused why you keep bringing up Keith Smart and going to war with 36 wins vs 23. It's not like we are debating a 45 win coach vs a 17.

Go ahead and read opinions, fans, etc... Not a lot of people agree with the firing. It was a knee jerk reaction by a management group that didn't like the way he preached to his team, but yet his teammates seemed to really support the guy.

 

[xer0]

There's no reason to argue this anymore, Jackson got fired and I gave you plenty of reasons why he did get fired.

He didn't accomplish anything ANY other coach would have done given the talent he was 'gifted', and plenty of other coaches would have taken them farther than Jackson did in my opinion.

Top that off with him being a control freak, and him rubbing MANY of the people within the organization and management/ownership the wrong way, and you easily see why Jackson was fired.

I would have never even hired him, he's a divisive individual going back to his days in Utah and is a poor X's and O's guy.