thoughts on UM-MSU

[Michchamp]

isn't it: parenthesis, multiplication, division, addition, subtraction?

no, PEMDAS... I forgot the "exponent" part.

it's 2.

 

[Michchamp]

My dear Aunt Sally says 2.

please excuse my dear aunt sally.

 

[Michchamp]

MSU has a different "order of operations":

step 1. move couch outside

step 2. light couch on fire.

MSU bros not do step one correctly, it get very hot inside party. party go up in smoke. house burn down. people die. very bad. learn things hard way.

 

[Green and White 95]

Gotta remember your ....Order of Operations!

PEMDAS says 2. But for some reason, a lot, and I mean more than 1/2, say 288.

 

[Green and White 95]

MSU has a different "order of operations":

step 1. move couch outside

step 2. light couch on fire.

MSU bros not do step one correctly, it get very hot inside party. party go up in smoke. house burn down. people die. very bad. learn things hard way.

I thought AA had a bigger problem with couch fires on porches, which is still in the house. Didn't your favorite Wolverine have a thread about something like that ?

 

[Gulo Blue]

My dear Aunt Sally says 288

Yup. M&D rank equally. A&S rank equally.

 

[Green and White 95]

yup

It is 288 ? Damn I thought it was 2. I guess I'm as dumb as MC. Shiiiitttt.

 

[Gulo Blue]

please excuse my dear aunt sally.

Please Expect Michigan to Dominate Against Sparty.

 

[Green and White 95]

Alright, back to thoughts on Michigan-MSU.

Michigan sucks

GO GREEN

GO WHITE

 

[RABID]

Please Expect Michigan to Dominate Against Sparty.

+1 !! LOL

You guys mowed thru this too fast. I jumped back to edit my answer with technical observances.

My Dear Aunt Sally says 288
Technically this is an ambiguous expression which is missing one set of parenthesis. With the way it is written it would lead you to believe the intention is to multiply through the parenthesis first, but by the OOOs that would be incorrect, as division and multiplication hold the same order hence resorting to left-to-right operations.

Can you show me how to re write the same expression to yield 8.67 ?

 

[RABID]

Alright, back to thoughts on Michigan-MSU.

Michigan State sucks

GO BLUE
GO MAIZE

*fixed

 

[Spartanmack]

+1 !! Lol

you guys mowed thru this too fast. I jumped back to edit my answer with technical observances.

My dear aunt sally says 288
technically this is an ambiguous expression which is missing one set of parenthesis. With the way it is written it would lead you to believe the intention is to multiply through the parenthesis first, but by the ooos that would be incorrect, as division and multiplication hold the same order hence resorting to left-to-right operations.

Can you show me how to re write the same expression to yield 8.67 ?

48/(2*9)+(2*3)

or, if that is too ambiguous:

(48/(2*9))+(2*3)

 

[Sbee]

I posted this on the board yesterday and some nancy took the thread down, I just thought this was funny, figured you guys would too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScOncDt8_nw+Gardner+vs+MSU&c=0&sigr=11ad9v656&sigt=10kk99q9e&age=0&vm=r&tt=b

 

[RABID]

48/(2*9)+(2*3)

or, if that is too ambiguous:

(48/(2*9))+(2*3)

+1 to Spack.

Actually there is no ambiguity in simple math, but equations and expressions can be written wrong.
Parenthesis cannot be "implied".

 

[Michchamp]

Yup. M&D rank equally. A&S rank equally.

wait. so is it 288 or 2?

PEMDAS always made sense to me, because otherwise, why would you even have parenthesis if operations outside them took precedence?

 

[RABID]

wait. so is it 288 or 2?

PEMDAS always made sense to me, because otherwise, why would you even have parenthesis if operations outside them took precedence?

It is 288. Period. multiplication and division have equal precendence and are done left to right.

 

[Gulo Blue]

wait. so is it 288 or 2?

PEMDAS always made sense to me, because otherwise, why would you even have parenthesis if operations outside them took precedence?

288. M&D are equivalent and you go left to right so you get to the division first, but I can't say I've ever run into this problem. The "right" thing to do depends on the real world problem you're trying to solve. Then, if you're in some situation where you have to write the problem down for someone else to solve, don't write it in a way that could be easily misinterpreted.

 

[RABID]

288. M&D are equivalent and you go left to right so you get to the division first, but I can't say I've ever run into this problem. The "right" thing to do depends on the real world problem you're trying to solve. Then, if you're in some situation where you have to write the problem down for someone else to solve, don't write it in a way that could be easily misinterpreted.

Gulo Genius does have a nice ring to it. :nod:

 

[Spartanmack]

+1 to Spack.

Actually there is no ambiguity in simple math, but equations and expressions can be written wrong.
Parenthesis cannot be "implied".

Correct, but that was a reference to your prior comment where you said the original expression was ambiguous and missing a set of parenthesis. It's not because as you correctly pointed out, the OOOs clearly tells you to perform the operation inside the parenthesis then the remaining operations left to right.

The answer is 288. Expressed this way:

48/(2(9+3))

the correct answer would be 2.

 

[Spartanmack]

wait. so is it 288 or 2?

PEMDAS always made sense to me, because otherwise, why would you even have parenthesis if operations outside them took precedence?

the P in PEMDAS refers to what's INSIDE the parenthesis. If they were not there the answer would be 5.67.