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Alex Gonzalez released

When have I EVER had an argument with Spock????? What numbers are you talking about?


The numbers Reb posts,
as for Spock maybe he is fed up with the BS arguing of nearly near every posts a couple of posters including you question when they add something of substance.

It's like when someone doesn't like someone else they will question every goddam thing the other guy posts for the sake of arguing. I didn't know skip bayless and the other guy were posing as Tigers fans.

We've been down this road before a long time ago.
 
But I don't. I don't go to games, not in a long time. I don't buy merchandise and I certainly don't eat his pizza.

You invest your time and emotions though, which also have value. Bad financial management can cause the on-field product to suffer if all you care about is winning. I'm with you in that I don't personally care what the payroll is either, as long as the money the team spends is spent wisely. In this case, it was not.
 
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You invest your time and emotions though, which also have value. Bad financial management can cause the on-field product to suffer if all you care about is winning. I'm with you in that I don't personally care what the payroll is either, as long as the money the team spends is spent wisely. In this case, it was not.

Sure but I wouldn't "feel" better if we lost by spending less. Baseball is relaxing which is why I watch. But until "we" draft better we're not going to be the Tampa Bay Rays.
 
One point about the money....many people defended the hell out of the trade of Fister, saying it was salary motivated. Well if that's true then it seems pretty silly to blow that much money on 9 games, even if it's not our money being spent.

So I would say it's still relevant to be upset about the money being wasted.
 
When the hell did everyone get so fucking sensitive on this forum? If people cant take someone responding with a different opinion to their posts, they shouldn't even be here. My point is dead on accurate, how Illitch spends his money has ZERO effect on anyone here. I didn't call anyone names or personally attack anyone so I'd appreciate the same respect in return.

The Tigers board has been like that for some time. There are a certain few that can share their opinion freely, and any opposition to that is considered causing trouble or trolling.

Look at what Kaline just said. Spock is tired of being argued with. Well boo fuckin hoo. Maybe he shouldn't post on a message board, then.
 
The Tigers board has been like that for some time. There are a certain few that can share their opinion freely, and any opposition to that is considered causing trouble or trolling.

Look at what Kaline just said. Spock is tired of being argued with. Well boo fuckin hoo. Maybe he shouldn't post on a message board, then.

I am tired of all the pointless arguing, by everyone. Its the distinction and differences between discussion and friendly arguments (which is what message boards are for) and pointless arguing up to and including baiting and trolling (which is just annoying) that is the main issue around here right now. This place would be boring as hell if noone discussed or argued at all, but whats going on around here right now is just as bad.
 
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The Tigers board has been like that for some time. There are a certain few that can share their opinion freely, and any opposition to that is considered causing trouble or trolling.

Look at what Kaline just said. Spock is tired of being argued with. Well boo fuckin hoo. Maybe he shouldn't post on a message board, then.

I'm not sure Spock said that..
 
I am tired of all the pointless arguing, by everyone. Its the distinction and differences between discussion (which is what message boards are for) and pointless arguing (which is just annoying) that is the main issue around here right now.

Then don't post if you can't take it. You may see others arguments as pointless.....but you fail to realize that others can see your posts as pointless too. So instead, you just whine and cry about different POV's like a hardheaded teenager who sees their opinions as "right" and nothing else.
 
Sure but I wouldn't "feel" better if we lost by spending less. Baseball is relaxing which is why I watch. But until "we" draft better we're not going to be the Tampa Bay Rays.

I wouldn't feel better either, and I don't think many fans would. That wasn't what I was saying. I don't want the Tigers to be making bad financial decisions because it hurts their chances of winning (e.g. Alex Gonzalez was a wasted roster space that didn't help the team all that much). I want them to win now, I want them to win tomorrow, I want them to win 10 years from now. Throwing money around unwisely hurts those chances.

Again I am not saying "slash the payroll!" If Illitch wants to spend 300 million dollars then go for it, but it better be spent in a manner that doesn't hurt the team's ability to win in the future.
 
Then don't post if you can't take it. You may see others arguments as pointless.....but you fail to realize that others can see your posts as pointless too. So instead, you just whine and cry about different POV's like a hardheaded teenager who sees their opinions as "right" and nothing else.



Yeah, you're right let's let this become like the Lions board. Because that place is the bomb right?
 
Then don't post if you can't take it. You may see others arguments as pointless.....but you fail to realize that others can see your posts as pointless too. So instead, you just whine and cry about different POV's like a hardheaded teenager who sees their opinions as "right" and nothing else.

Sidestepping the issue with needless personal attacks. This is some of the stuff thats getting ridiculous and old. Its nice to know you consider discussing an issue whiny rather than behaving like a mature adult though.
 
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I wouldn't feel better either, and I don't think many fans would. That wasn't what I was saying. I don't want the Tigers to be making bad financial decisions because it hurts their chances of winning (e.g. Alex Gonzalez was a wasted roster space that didn't help the team all that much). I want them to win now, I want them to win tomorrow, I want them to win 10 years from now. Throwing money around unwisely hurts those chances.

Again I am not saying "slash the payroll!" If Illitch wants to spend 300 million dollars then go for it, but it better be spent in a manner that doesn't hurt the team's ability to win in the future.

I can get on board with some of that but if we didn't sign Gonzalez we wouldn't be better off. At least I don't think so. We'd still have no one functional at shortstop.
 
I can get on board with some of that but if we didn't sign Gonzalez we wouldn't be better off. At least I don't think so. We'd still have no one functional at shortstop.

Agreed. These are more "macro" concerns than "micro" so to speak.
 
Sidestepping the issue with needless personal attacks. This is some of the stuff thats getting ridiculous and old. Its nice to know you consider discussing an issue whiny rather than behaving like a mature adult though.

Where is the personal attack?
 
The Tigers board has been like that for some time. There are a certain few that can share their opinion freely, and any opposition to that is considered causing trouble or trolling.

Look at what Kaline just said. Spock is tired of being argued with. Well boo fuckin hoo. Maybe he shouldn't post on a message board, then.

The Tigers board has been like that for some time. There are a certain few that can share their opinion freely, and any opposition to that is considered causing trouble or trolling.

This is your opinion.

Look at what Kaline just said. Spock is tired of being argued with. Well boo fuckin hoo. Maybe he shouldn't post on a message board, then

He isn't being argued with, doesn't need to read a shit storm when a few posters post and a few others are ready to disagree with it.

There wasn't a personal attack, much of the same, which sounds like it's boring to you.
 
I think part of the problem is too many thread going off topic. If it gets too bad I'll just start closing threads regardless what anyone else thinks...
 
Where is the personal attack?

Calling me whiny and saying im a hard-headed teenager for having issues with this and talking about it counts as one in my book given that you used it to dodge the actual point of my post (which you're still avoiding) about what I actually have issues with. All you've done is make generalizations about me despite me spelling out what I am having problems with, and you used (admittedly mild) name-calling to dodge my point and make yours.
 
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I think part of the problem is too many thread going off topic. If it gets too bad I'll just start closing threads regardless what anyone else thinks...

you might want to discuss that...who died and left you in complete charge.
 
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