Verlander traded to Houston, TJ Surgery, Wins 2 WS, Wins 3rd Cy Young, a Met, Astro again

[tinselwolverine]

It looks like "playoff JV" showed up in game one of the divisional series.

4 IP, 10 hits, 6 ER

He don?t pitch so well coming off a long layoff.

 

[tinselwolverine]

In 14 ALDS appearances his ERA is 3.08 and that includes the game he just pitched.
In 11 ALCS appearances his ERA is 3.13.

Its the WS where he's been bad.

He don?t pitch so well coming off a long layoff.

 

[sggatecl]

Max got lit up in his playoff start as well.

 

[tomdalton22]

In 14 ALDS appearances his ERA is 3.08 and that includes the game he just pitched.
In 11 ALCS appearances his ERA is 3.13.

Its the WS where he's been bad.

gotcha. I guess his terrible postseason games are what I remember.

 

[Mitchrapp]

gotcha. I guess his terrible postseason games are what I remember.

Makes sense. I think about the bad hitting and injuries this season more than the good BP.

 

[kalinecountry]

https://www.mlb.com/news/justin-verlander-ready-for-game-1-start-in-2022-alcs
With adjustments made, Verlander ready to open ALCS.
MLB.com

 

[kalinecountry]

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/verlander-shines-for-astros-in-game-1-victory/
Verlander Shines for Astros in Game 1 Victory.
Fangraphs

 

[kalinecountry]

https://motorcitybengals.com/2022/10/20/alcs-brings-musing-detroit-tigers-justin-verlander/
ALCS brings musing of Detroit Tigers and Justin Verlander.
MCBTB

 

[kalinecountry]

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/the-world-series-sized-hole-in-justin-verlanders-hall-of-fame-resume/
The World Series-Sized Hole in Justin Verlander?s Hall of Fame Resum?.
Fangraphs

 

[kalinecountry]

https://totallytigers.wordpress.com/2022/11/01/watercooler-wednesday-59/
WATERCOOLER WEDNESDAY.
Totally Tigers

Today, another opportunity for readers to discuss the hottest topics in a forum where thoughtful dialog and a variety of opinions are welcomed.

Let?s create some running conversational threads. And for those of you back in actual offices, here?s a question to take with you ? or use via Zoom ? as you talk to your co-workers.

Here is today?s topic??..

Former Tiger Justin Verlander continues to struggle in the World Series. While he was clutch in the playoffs, he has been horrible in the World Series.

In the ALDS and ALCS, JV has a 15-5 record with an ERA just north of 3.0. But in the WS, he is 0-6 with a 6.07 ERA. His ERA leads all of MLB pitchers for this event. Only Whitey Ford has lost more games, but Ford also won 10 with a minuscule 2.71 ERA.

Ironically, Verlander is expected to win his 3rd Cy Young Award this year. He was a major contributor to the Astros success in 2022.

JV is expected to make another start in the World Series. If you were the Astros manager, Dusty Baker, how would you use JV?

Given his disastrous record, would you give him another start or would you instead use him in an appropriate relief situation?

How should the Astros use Justin Verlander going forward in the World Series?

1. Keep him as a starter.

2. Move him to an appropriate reliever role.

VOTE

 

[kalinecountry]

Justin Verlander missed the 2020 and 2021 seasons after undergoing Tommy John surgery.

Already a likely first ballot HOF, he decided to return at 39 years old.

? 18-4 record
? 1.75 ERA (1st in MLB)
? Cy Young winner?
? 1st career WS win in Game 5
? World Series Champion

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fg2RDJ0XgAAgpU4?format=jpg&name=medium

 

[kalinecountry]

https://www.pitcherlist.com/biggest-cy-young-snubs-of-all-time/
Biggest Cy Young Snubs of All Time. Verlander here for two different seasons.
Who got the hardware and who got the shaft?
PitcherList

 

[tomdalton22]

JV opts for free agency


https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id...der-declines-player-option-becomes-free-agent

 

[Mitchrapp]

Where does he expect to go he just won the WS.

 

[tomdalton22]

Where does he expect to go he just won the WS.

I think he expects to make more than $25M (which is what he was to make next year)

 

[sggatecl]

I imagine opting out in order to get another 2+ year deal is smart at this age and has nothing to do with Houston.

 

[tinselwolverine]

I imagine opting out in order to get another 2+ year deal is smart at this age and has nothing to do with Houston.

I don?t know.

Maybe he wants to be out of there before the world learns how they cheated this time.

 

[Mitchrapp]

So it's official its money>competing. I hope LAA sign him they never go anywhere.

 

[tomdalton22]

So it's official its money>competing. I hope LAA sign him they never go anywhere.

who's to say he won't sign with a really good team for more money...maybe he re-signs with Houston.

 

[Mitchrapp]

who's to say he won't sign with a really good team for more money...maybe he re-signs with Houston.

True.