Rich Rod's Arizona allowed 35 so far

[dubbsco]

And it's not even halftime.

 

[Michchamp]

And it's not even halftime.

I don't thing anyone here is surprised. we all know he's not a good football coach. or person.

 

[bphillips4gg]

I don't thing anyone here is surprised. we all know he's not a good football coach. or person.

He's a fine football coach, just didn't work out here. As far as being a bad person, I can't really speculate.

 

[rumseyhouse77]

I've been watching this game. Looks like a typical RR team. Too many screw ups and too little D. How are they ranked 16?

 

[Spartan23MSU]

I don't thing anyone here is surprised. we all know he's not a good football coach. or person.

He isnt a BAD coach. He didnt fit the system. Id have kept Carr over him but thats old newspapers.

 

[zyxt9]

Playing his CBs 15 yards from LoS again/still??? He will never learn.

 

[Michlady]

Defense isn't important ti RR

 

[Gulo Blue]

He isnt a BAD coach. He didnt fit the system. Id have kept Carr over him but thats old newspapers.

You can't make a guy keep working once he wants to retire.

I would have supported Carr staying as long as he wanted.

 

[zyxt9]

It was evident after the Appy St loss that Carr had lost his passion and players had lost focus as a result. The choice to go a completely different direction from talent on the team was due to a clueless AD as much as anything, but it would have been better if Carr had arranged for solid replacement. So many former UM coordinators could have been selected even if those on his staff at the time were not good enough. Why they felt they had to go with RR can never be explained away, it was just plain wrong. Not that Mallett ended up being that great, but he could have been successful with UM under a new staff that continued the pro style offense instead of going spread and becoming a gimmick offense. Heck, I would say even if Mallett still left that maintaining pro offense would have had more success than 3 wins, provided the D was still a focus instead of being considered a nuisance like it is to RR.

 

[rumseyhouse77]

It was evident after the Appy St loss that Carr had lost his passion and players had lost focus as a result. The choice to go a completely different direction from talent on the team was due to a clueless AD as much as anything, but it would have been better if Carr had arranged for solid replacement. So many former UM coordinators could have been selected even if those on his staff at the time were not good enough. Why they felt they had to go with RR can never be explained away, it was just plain wrong. Not that Mallett ended up being that great, but he could have been successful with UM under a new staff that continued the pro style offense instead of going spread and becoming a gimmick offense. Heck, I would say even if Mallett still left that maintaining pro offense would have had more success than 3 wins, provided the D was still a focus instead of being considered a nuisance like it is to RR.

Back then RR was considered to be a coach on the verge or a NC. It made sense to consider him for the job at Michigan. But it turned out that he was locked into his system and could not adjust to the players that he had on the team, so he lost a potentially good QB in Mallet and was left with basically no QB for the season. The subsequent seasons with the neglect of the D and special teams (especially the kicking game) things went downhill quick. He deserved to be fired. Sure DR was an exciting player, but he was not an elusive running threat and worse he was not durable. DG also had great potential, better than DR as a QB I think, but he didn't get a chance until his last couple of seasons and by then it was too late for him to develop as a QB. This is all water under the bridge now.

 

[inkfreq]

Like him or hate him, one thing is for sure... he needs to teach his center how to snap. No QB is 16'3" tall.

 

[zyxt9]

In RRs mind that was the QBs fault for not making an athletic enough play to catch that and score a TD in video game-esque fashion.

 

[Monster]

Back then RR was considered to be a coach on the verge or a NC. It made sense to consider him for the job at Michigan. But it turned out that he was locked into his system and could not adjust to the players that he had on the team, so he lost a potentially good QB in Mallet and was left with basically no QB for the season. The subsequent seasons with the neglect of the D and special teams (especially the kicking game) things went downhill quick. He deserved to be fired. Sure DR was an exciting player, but he was not an elusive running threat and worse he was not durable. DG also had great potential, better than DR as a QB I think, but he didn't get a chance until his last couple of seasons and by then it was too late for him to develop as a QB. This is all water under the bridge now.

What really pisses me off about that whole situation is that if Carr (or a similar coach) had been there in 2008, Mallet would have stayed and graduated as a Wolverine, Arrington and Manningham wouldn't have bolted early for the NFL. That 2008 team could have been really good. And Mallet still had 2 or 3 years of eligibility left. We wouldn't have lost a step.

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

I've been watching this game. Looks like a typical RR team. Too many screw ups and too little D. How are they ranked 16?

Good football coaches don't give up 40 points in a half

 

[zyxt9]

What really pisses me off about that whole situation is that if Carr (or a similar coach) had been there in 2008, Mallet would have stayed and graduated as a Wolverine, Arrington and Manningham wouldn't have bolted early for the NFL. That 2008 team could have been really good. And Mallet still had 2 or 3 years of eligibility left. We wouldn't have lost a step.

My sentiments exactly. Carr and Martin needed to have a proper successor in place, knowing that it was his last year. Switching to a completely different style of coach was the biggest mistake in program history, IMO. At least with Harbaugh, we now have a feeling that things have returned to "normal", with potential to be even better than that.

 

[bphillips4gg]

My sentiments exactly. Carr and Martin needed to have a proper successor in place, knowing that it was his last year. Switching to a completely different style of coach was the biggest mistake in program history, IMO. At least with Harbaugh, we now have a feeling that things have returned to "normal", with potential to be even better than that.

In hindsight switching to a coach with a different system was a terrible mistake. At the time, the spread was dominating college football and RR was one of the guys leading the way. We all watched Michigan get shredded over and over by those teams. And with as stale as things had gotten with Lloyd, out felt like time to move away from the whole "Michigan Man" requirement.

I'm not happy that the program feel flat on its face for 7+ years, but I'm happy with the direction it's moving in now.