so who are 4 teams with a better resume than Michigan and why?

[thewolverines24]

I think we can all agree 4 teams is not enough to constitute a legitimate playoff.

It's a joke postseason.

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[tomdalton22]

I think we can all agree 4 teams is not enough to constitute a legitimate playoff.

It's a joke postseason.

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I like it better than any other post season in any other sport. Best regular season as well.

 

[tinselwolverine]

I like it better than any other post season in any other sport. Best regular season as well.

Then it makes sense that one more round of the championship post season would be even better.

 

[MSUMatt28]

I am not sure what I think of having 8 teams. There will be questions regarding who is 7-8 vs who is 9-10 like there can be for 3,4,5,6. I think extending out the season another week is a bad idea unless they went back to an 11 game regular season, which we know isn't going to happen.


If they could work a system such that the conference championship games are actual quarterfinals instead of sort of quarterfinals, that would work. The one problem with that is you'd would have to condense down to 4 mega conferences and shut out anyone from outside that group. Your Boise State's, Houston, etc.


I think the setup 2 years ago worked great with the 2 playoff games closing out New Year's Day and then you only extend the season 1 more week for those final 2. Then they had to go and screw it up last year and put those games on New Year's Eve.

 

[dubbsco]

For what it's worth, Herbstreit said Michigan would be back in with a Washington loss.

I think if Washington and Clemson both lost, M would find their way back in.

 

[byco42]

There should be 14 teams.

 

[TheVictors]

I doubt Michigan gets in.

If not, I'm hoping Rose Bowl.

Me too. Nothing in Florida again. Only problem is that you'd have a MICHIGAN vs Colorado or MICHIGAN vs USC Rose Bowl and playing SC again ...in LA would be lame and I don't think a rematch with CU would be what the people want.

I've seen Orange Bowl predictions

As far as "SOS" goes, to me it's stupid. Michigan played by far its toughest opponent on the final day of the regular season ..as is tradition. The team lost in double OT, on the road, to the #2 team in the country. How is that in any way comparable to any other Top 10 team? "Michigan hasn't played anyone..." is what was said all season and it ignores the fact that in Week 12, the team would face the best team in the nation, besides Alabama. So had UM and OSU played in Week 4 to start BigTen play and played a double OT thriller, Michigan would be the benefactor of this same line of reasoning. Now it becomes, "well hey Michigan took the #2 team in the nation to Double OT on the road, a team that was manhandling Penn State until the 4th quarter."

I think it's only a matter of time to get to an 8-team playoff. And while there would always be whining about the "9th" best team getting left out, I just feel it's heading that way eventually. And aside from the money Dr Pepper pays for sponsorship (and those God awful commercials with the Dr Pepper stadium vendor non-stop) what's the point of these Conference Champ Games? It's all about TV money and the few fans that bother to attend ....

I'd say scrap the Conf Champ games and expand the playoffs -- you can even play the first two rounds in December and then have the typical layoff until the Semis and Finals and other Bowls...

 

[Michchamp]

scrapping conf champ games is a pretty good idea.

gotta find a way to replace the $$$ conferences make from champ games with something, though, or will never pass muster with greedy conference commissioners.

 

[mhughes0021]

im bummed we dont get to see how Michigan would fair against Bama or Clemson. And i agree conference championships shouldnt matter. If im on the committee im putting Bama, OSU, Washington and Clemson in right now (not sold 100% washington wins this weekend). If PSU wins the B1G they would have a legitimate gripe that OSU shouldnt get in over them.....but they should have scheduled harder.

 

[mhughes0021]

For what it's worth, Herbstreit said Michigan would be back in with a Washington loss.

I think if Washington and Clemson both lost, M would find their way back in.

Over the b1G champ? or Over OSU? I dont see either happening. I think clemson and washington both have to lose.

 

[TheVictors]

scrapping conf champ games is a pretty good idea.

gotta find a way to replace the $$$ conferences make from champ games with something, though, or will never pass muster with greedy conference commissioners.

just make them preliminary round playoff games and then add in some At Large teams. The MWC has it's Champ game between the Pacific and the Mountain played at a host site, determined by the Polls ...so a Boise State might host Wyoming if they're #22 and Wyoming unranked ..or vice versa. I think you could mitigate some of the miserable attendance at the Conf Champ games by making them on campus games and still have the same TV revenue.

So I suppose in the BigTen you'd have Penn St (8-1) hosting Wisconsin (7-2) based on Conf record.. If PSU wins, they advance and Wisc is done but eligible (though not likely with 3-losses) for the playoff At Large ...and in the case of an unlikely Florida win in Tuscaloosa, you could still select Alabama as a 1-loss At Large while UF advances because they won.

 

[dubbsco]

If just Washington loses, I would think Michigan gets over Penn State.

But yeah I agree there, I think both need to lose.

Colorado I can see taking out Washington. But Va Tech over Clemson? Probably not.

 

[UMRules06]

http://www.espn.com/college-footbal...y-four-teams-perfect-college-football-playoff

 

[Michlady]

I expect rose or orange bowl

As I said earlier 2 losses while close were I last few weeks

And we could have and should have won both games.

Take the prestige bowl and not play Alabama is fine with me

 

[Michlady]

I have always said CCG can hurt more than help

If Wisconsin wins, it will be osu and wisky from big ten

 

[Spartanmack]

Alabama...not really...how many wins do they have against the current top 10? but they are undefeated and they are Alabama, so they stay #1

Ohio St? Well, they didn't look much better head 2 head on their home turf for most the day yesterday. Sure, they won, but that game was a coin flip. That being said, i can see why someone would say, "Well, they won the head 2 head game, so they are better." If you are going to say that and use that, then you have to save that for later and use it the exact same way...

Who else? Personally I can't think of anyone...

Clemson? No wins against top 10...if Michigan plays their schedule, they're undefeated

Washington? Again, no wins against top 10...Who have they beaten?

Penn St? They have 2 losses...let's go back to the OSU discussion. Michigan beat PSU by 39 points. If you say OSU is better due to head2head, then how can you say that PSU is better than MIchigan? I don't care about this "when" crap. It can be argued that the backhalf of PSU's schedule is just easier than the front half and that Michigan's backhalf was just harder than the front half. Michigan beat PSU. Michigan has 3 wins against the top 10 and just played the #2 team to a virtual tie on their home turf.

Wisconsin? Again, if you say that OSU is better than Michigan due to head2head, then how can you turn around and say that UW is better than Michigan? How many top 10 wins does UW have?

Oklahoma? Please...

Colorado? ehhhhhhhhhhh no

so, yes, I am suggesting that the big 10 championship game is meaningless to this discussion. Clearly, OSU and MIchigan are both better than PSU and UW. Who cares that by some weird formula and division situation that those teams are going to play for the big 10 championship?

What do you think? OH yeah and fans of some random 3-9 team that don't even have the RichRod excuse going for them don't need to reply...

You may not be able to say they won the head-to-head so OSU is better, but you can say they won the head-to-head so they are more deserving of a spot in the playoff. Also, they have fewer losses and their loss to PSU is better than your loss to Iowa. So clearly, whether they are better or not, OSU deserves a spot in the playoff ahead of michigan. So does Alabama - because Alabama is better.

 

[tinselwolverine]

Over the b1G champ? or Over OSU? I dont see either happening. I think clemson and washington both have to lose.

No not over OSU. OSU is presumed virtually in no matter what. So is Alabama.

It would be over Washington if Washington loses.
But yes over the winner of the Big Ten championship game.

This is I think what
Herbstreit is predicting anyway.

 

[dubbsco]

Quite honestly, Washington and Clemson both lose, they'd have a hard time keeping Michigan out. Don't see it happening, but it's not a complete longshot.

 

[TheVictors]

You may not be able to say they won the head-to-head so OSU is better, but you can say they won the head-to-head so they are more deserving of a spot in the playoff. Also, they have fewer losses and their loss to PSU is better than your loss to Iowa. So clearly, whether they are better or not, OSU deserves a spot in the playoff ahead of michigan. So does Alabama - because Alabama is better.

I think only Alabama and OSU are better than Michigan. I don't think Clemson is and while I don't want to pile on against a West Coast program like the media does, I don't fully think UW is either. The Iowa loss is what it is, but a few years ago if a "2-loss Auburn" who'd lost to "Alabama" in double-OT in Tuscaloosa had also lost earlier in the year to Georgia, the narrative would be how deserving Auburn is, because the "SEC is just so dagummit tough."

Most preseason speculation had UM at 10-2 with losses to Iowa and OSU and that's exactly what happened, along with more than a few blowouts - including over two Top 10 teams - and a gritty win vs #5/6 Wisconsin. OSU could just as easily be a 3-loss team but for a few breaks in Madison and at home.

 

[thewolverines24]

If just Washington loses, I would think Michigan gets over Penn State.

But yeah I agree there, I think both need to lose.

Colorado I can see taking out Washington. But Va Tech over Clemson? Probably not.

Penn State has no argument to get in over us. We didn't just beat them, we slaughtered them. People yap about their LBs being hurt, but they wouldn't have made a difference. The game was over by halftime.

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