Well... we'll get em next year.

[tsume99]

In all honesty though, at least we'll feel like Michigan has a chance in this game, as long as Harbaugh is on he sidelines. But this was a National Championship caliber team. But losing 2 of 3 down the stretch, with play-calling dumb enough to make a bald man pull his hair out, Michigan's going to have to "settle" for the Rose Bowl, in all likelihood.

Well, it *has* been awhile since Michigan's played in the Rose Bowl, and while I would've loved for them to play in the B1G championship game and stay in the playoff hunt, I wasn't looking forward to the possibility of them getting trucked by Bama.

 

[wlvrnstlr4life]

In all honesty though, at least we'll feel like Michigan has a chance in this game, as long as Harbaugh is on he sidelines. But this was a National Championship caliber team. But losing 2 of 3 down the stretch, with play-calling dumb enough to make a bald man pull his hair out, Michigan's going to have to "settle" for the Rose Bowl, in all likelihood.

I sure hope not, we'll end up finding a way to lose against a shitty USC team. The farthest from Pasadena the better. Id rather play a west coast team on the east coast. In our neck of the woods for a change.

 

[tsume99]

Maybe fortune will smile on us and we'll get Florida in Florida again. It's always worked for us before, lol.

 

[wlvrnstlr4life]

It sure will be amusing to see Colorado and PSU win the conference Championships and we steamrolled both.

Do they automatically jump us in the standings? Jeeze that would be something.

 

[lostleader]

You guys are talking bowl games and I just have to wonder what the big ten thinks of its officiating crew screwing 1 of its most watched teams out of its own championship and Penn State keeping the other one out?

I know Wisconsin is respectable and Penn State used to be before the Sandusky deal, but I don't see this game generating much fire. Then to top it off, things to fall where they don't let either of them into the College football playoff.

I know I know it's hardly an idea OSU doesn't get in, but Clemson and Washington (overrated) and Alabama win and they are all but garuanteed a spot. Does OSU keep Penn State, a team that Beat OSU out of that spot?

Some shady business gonna go down.

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[tinselwolverine]

You guys are talking bowl games and I just have to wonder what the big ten thinks of its officiating crew screwing 1 of its most watched teams out of its own championship and Penn State keeping the other one out?

I know Wisconsin is respectable and Penn State used to be before the Sandusky deal, but I don't see this game generating much fire. Then to top it off, things to fall where they don't let either of them into the College football playoff.

I know I know it's hardly an idea OSU doesn't get in, but Clemson and Washington (overrated) and Alabama win and they are all but garuanteed a spot. Does OSU keep Penn State, a team that Beat OSU out of that spot?

Some shady business gonna go down.

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That shouldn't happen.

 

[wlvrnstlr4life]

The best teams, not including Alabama, will NOT be in the college playoff. Clemson sucks dick(and still may lose to VT)and we will have beaten 2 conference champions if CU beats Washington. Blown out 2 conference champs if its PSU and CU who win out. Holy shit this is crazy.

 

[tsume99]

The best teams, not including Alabama, will NOT be in the college playoff. Clemson sucks dick(and still may lose to VT)and we will have beaten 2 conference champions if CU beats Washington. Blown out 2 conference champs if its PSU and CU who win out. Holy shit this is crazy.

We're experiencing BCS-era problems only 3 years into the playoff.

Maybe the 4-team field will expand if crap like this keeps happening.

 

[Mitchrapp]

We're experiencing BCS-era problems only 3 years into the playoff.

Maybe the 4-team field will expand if crap like this keeps happening.

It's not a surprise. Weather it was just polls like 20 years ago, the BCS and now the playoff system - always going to be a team complaining they were left out. Even if it became an 8 team playoff system, that ninth team will think they got screwed..

 

[rumseyhouse77]

The winner of the B1G championship should be the team that represents the conference in the playoff. There are only four playoff spots and the conference champ has earned the right to that spot. Neither OSU nor Michigan will be the B1G champion this year so neither should go to the playoff. That's it. That is fair. It's crazy in the sense that these are likely the two best teams in the conference, but they did not win it on the field of play. If OSU winds up going to the playoff, then some real shady shit will have gone down (I don't put it past OSU, etc. to pull something off) and we are right back in the BCS era in terms of deciding the "National Champion".

 

[jwlcosu]

The winner of the B1G championship should be the team that represents the conference in the playoff. There are only four playoff spots and the conference champ has earned the right to that spot. Neither OSU nor Michigan will be the B1G champion this year so neither should go to the playoff. That's it. That is fair. It's crazy in the sense that these are likely the two best teams in the conference, but they did not win it on the field of play. If OSU winds up going to the playoff, then some real shady shit will have gone down (I don't put it past OSU, etc. to pull something off) and we are right back in the BCS era in terms of deciding the "National Champion".

Rumsey, I don't disagree with the premise of your post. But you go off the rails when you start going all Ahab with the OSU conspiracy theory business.

 

[LuciousGameWinner]

If you don't believe that OSU is the second best team in the country behind Alabama you are delusional. They actually have a better resume than Alabama. This is what happens when you plan an unbalanced schedule. Penn State didn't play Wisconsin or Nebraska. OSU beat both, and they beat Oklahoma on the road. There is no way OSU does not make the final four and if somehow they don't, the committee are a bunch of idiots.
And honestly, Michigan deserves it over Penn state or Wisconsin. It's obvious OSU and Michigan are the two best teams in the big ten.

 

[Michchamp]

If you don't believe that OSU is the second best team in the country behind Alabama you are delusional. They actually have a better resume than Alabama. This is what happens when you plan an unbalanced schedule. Penn State didn't play Wisconsin or Nebraska. OSU beat both, and they beat Oklahoma on the road. There is no way OSU does not make the final four and if somehow they don't, the committee are a bunch of idiots.
And honestly, Michigan deserves it over Penn state or Wisconsin. It's obvious OSU and Michigan are the two best teams in the big ten.

if alabama and osu are locks for the CFP, and everyone else outside of the conference shits the bed in their championship games, I suppose there's still a chance Michigan gets in over UW or PSU. Probably our best bet is over PSU, since I think they have a worse resume than UW.

 

[TheVictors]

Better team lost


And what the ****?! Tangled chains?? That's a first in over 40yrs of football. No measurement to prove the 1st down either??

****ing disgrace

 

[UMRules06]

I would be embarrassed to make the playoff at this point. If we can't beat OSU or even make our own conference title game, then we do not deserve to go. Period end of story. We had our chance and couldn't pull it out. That combined with the inexcusable performance against Iowa.

 

[MSUMatt28]

Tough call with all the playoff scenarios, but it was bound to happen as things have worked out a little too tidily in previous years with the playoff, other than the minor OSU, TCU, Baylor conundrum 2 years ago. It does not sit well with me that a team that did not qualify for it's conference championship gets into the playoff. But OSU does have the best resume of the Big Ten teams. PSU had the easiest draw of crossover opponents, lost to UM 49-10 and needed 2 blocked kicks at home vs OSU to miraculously pull out a game they trailed by double digits for most of with 2 weeks to prepare while OSU had previously beaten Wisconsin in OT on the road the previous weekend. It was basically the perfect storm of events that weekend and that is the only real accomplishment on PSU's resume when looking at individual wins. And then of course that 21 point road win vs Oklahoma for OSU OOC.


And as for OSU-UM, yeah that one was settled too, just barely. UM looked like the better team most of the day. Gripes with the PI calls were legitimate. As for "the spot". I looked at that thing I don't know how many times. Disapointing that there wasn't a better angle (or any other angle at all) on that particular play, but it looks to me like forward progress had Barrett just at that line (and not an inch beyond) and good for a first down, and then he is immediately pushed backwards. Still it's difficult to see as the ball is tucked into his arm with his body blocking full view too of the ball. His arm appears to be at the line or just beyond so it depends on where the ball is in relation to that. I'm not sure how anyone can say "obviously" one way or another on that call, especially in real-time.


If Clemson loses or Colorado upsets Washington, then oh boy, I don't know. If you put OSU in over PSU-Wisconsin based on "resume", then you'd probably have to do the same thing with Michigan. UM over PSU is an easier call than UM over Wisconsin as Wisconsin would have a quality OOC win, an OT loss to OSU and close road loss to UM. But I don't think you can put in say Colorado over UM based on UM's 17 point head-to-head win, and Clemson if they lose I'd think that knocks them out. However I don't think Clemson is losing.


All I know is the last time UM-OSU, and the Big Ten itself, was talked about this much both before and then after The Game regarding rematches, and post season ramifications, both teams crapped the bed in their bowl games and it ushered in a decade of SEC dominance and Big Ten mediocrity. So let's hope there's not a repeat of all that.

 

[gotime909]

Tough call with all the playoff scenarios, but it was bound to happen as things have worked out a little too tidily in previous years with the playoff, other than the minor OSU, TCU, Baylor conundrum 2 years ago. It does not sit well with me that a team that did not qualify for it's conference championship gets into the playoff. But OSU does have the best resume of the Big Ten teams. PSU had the easiest draw of crossover opponents, lost to UM 49-10 and needed 2 blocked kicks at home vs OSU to miraculously pull out a game they trailed by double digits for most of with 2 weeks to prepare while OSU had previously beaten Wisconsin in OT on the road the previous weekend. It was basically the perfect storm of events that weekend and that is the only real accomplishment on PSU's resume when looking at individual wins. And then of course that 21 point road win vs Oklahoma for OSU OOC.


And as for OSU-UM, yeah that one was settled too, just barely. UM looked like the better team most of the day. Gripes with the PI calls were legitimate. As for "the spot". I looked at that thing I don't know how many times. Disapointing that there wasn't a better angle (or any other angle at all) on that particular play, but it looks to me like forward progress had Barrett just at that line (and not an inch beyond) and good for a first down, and then he is immediately pushed backwards. Still it's difficult to see as the ball is tucked into his arm with his body blocking full view too of the ball. His arm appears to be at the line or just beyond so it depends on where the ball is in relation to that. I'm not sure how anyone can say "obviously" one way or another on that call, especially in real-time.


If Clemson loses or Colorado upsets Washington, then oh boy, I don't know. If you put OSU in over PSU-Wisconsin based on "resume", then you'd probably have to do the same thing with Michigan. UM over PSU is an easier call than UM over Wisconsin as Wisconsin would have a quality OOC win, an OT loss to OSU and close road loss to UM. But I don't think you can put in say Colorado over UM based on UM's 17 point head-to-head win, and Clemson if they lose I'd think that knocks them out. However I don't think Clemson is losing.


All I know is the last time UM-OSU, and the Big Ten itself, was talked about this much both before and then after The Game regarding rematches, and post season ramifications, both teams crapped the bed in their bowl games and it ushered in a decade of SEC dominance and Big Ten mediocrity. So let's hope there's not a repeat of all that.

OSU is in and there is no way the committee takes TWO other Big Ten teams over the actual conference champ. Besides, Michigan had control of their own destiny and shit themselves losing 2 of their last 3 and had the benefit of 8 out of 12 games at home. Being a .500 team on the road isn't impressive at all.

 

[rumseyhouse77]

Rumsey, I don't disagree with the premise of your post. But you go off the rails when you start going all Ahab with the OSU conspiracy theory business.

I don't think it is unreasonable to suspect shenanigans in these instances. History shows they happen. Case in point, the vote in 1973 to send OSU to the Rose Bowl over Michigan. The splitting of the NC in 1997 between Michigan and Nebraska (one of the incidents that lead to the creation of the BCS). Florida going to the BCS NC game and 2006 (I know the outcome but that is not the point) over several other teams that had legitimate claims. These types of shenanigans have happened in the past. One of the reasons for scrapping the BCS and moving to the playoff system was to get rid of this kind of crap. OSU, while a very good team, is not as good this year as it has been the past years. You can talk up resumes, and other arbitrary things to justify the desire to send a team to the NC or playoff, but one of the reasons the BCS was created and one of the reasons the BCS was scrapped for the playoff system was to get rid of that nonsense. Enough with the post hoc justifications for sending one team over another. Either win it on the field of play or the playoff is a joke and the NC that results from it is mythical. It would be a travesty to send a team to the playoff when they didn't even play in their conference championship game.

 

[tinselwolverine]

If you don't believe that OSU is the second best team in the country behind Alabama you are delusional. They actually have a better resume than Alabama...

Why?

On Alabama's "resume" is having won its division - that isn't on OSU's.

Probably Alabama is going have a conference championship on its resume - not OSU.

I'm not really reacting to you - you're saying something I've been hearing pundits say all day yesterday - completely disregarding that division and conference championships should be included on the so called "resume."

 

[TheVictors]

OSU is 2001 Nebraska.

They'll be in the Championship Playoffs without even competing for its own conference championship.