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The 2022 Hall of Fame ballot: David Ortiz only inductee

https://totallytigers.wordpress.com/2021/12/14/watercooler-wednesday-16/
WATERCOOLER WEDNESDAY.
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Today, another chance for readers to have increased opportunities to discuss the hottest topics in a forum where thoughtful conversations and a variety of opinions are welcomed.

Let?s create some running conversation threads with not just comments but replies to others. And for those of you still going into offices, here?s a question to take with you ? or use via Zoom calls ? as you talk to your co-workers.

Here is today?s hot topic. For this blog only, a maximum of 10 sentences please.

MLB may be hibernating but the powers that be at the Baseball Hall of Fame are not. The latest ballots for induction have been sent out and are due back before the end of the year.

Which brings us back, once again, to the big controversy and the elephant in the room.

PEDs.

Substances that build muscle mass, endurance, increase power, improve hand/eye coordination as well as vision (ability to see the pitches better) and speed (both running and bat speed) ? to name a few.

Many already inducted in the Hall are opposed to any new members linked to PEDs. Joe Morgan made it his mission to fight against the induction of players who cheated using PEDs. Currently, it is being reported that many of those already enshrined in Cooperstown have told the Hall that they won?t attend the ceremonies if certain players are elected.

One of those players is Barry Bonds, infamous for his use of performance-enhancing drugs. It is widely accepted that his stats were padded because he took them to enhance his performance and career.

But there are some who say Bonds still belongs in the Hall because he was a great player even before his reported use of them starting in 1997. But was he really?

The issue for voting is twofold:

Writers are asked to include character in their decision-making.

How much of Bonds? stats are enhanced due to the PED use?

Let?s consider this last question.

Dan Szymborksi, created the ZIPS projection system, which is described as ?startling accurate? and endorsed and used by MLB. Simply, it uses past performance and trends, combined with the decline due to age, that predicts a player?s future performance.

Dan was asked to re-calculate Bonds? stats to replace those completed while he was using PEDs.

And he found a significant difference in almost every category.

In 2001, Barry hit 73 HRs using PEDS. He was projected to hit only 23 (plus or minus) that year. From 2001 through 2004, he hit 209 HRs. He was projected to hit only 66 during that same period.

His career HR total places him at 551, not 762. That would rank him at #15, just below Manny Ramirez (ironically).

Looking at OPS+ (ability to get on base and hit for power while adjusting for each ballpark), he was a solid player in the first half of his career. But his numbers went off the charts with the use of PEDS and he zoomed up the chart, landing at #4.

Without PEDS, his stats would have placed him tied for #30.

WAR (a complete summary of a player?s value to the team and estimation of how many wins a player is worth to his team) was also significantly impacted. With PEDs, he has a 164.4 WAR. Without them, it?s 128.7.

In summary, Bonds? stats are all significantly impacted by his use of PEDs.

Should Barry Bonds be elected to the Baseball Hall of Fame?

Choose from the 2 options below. To make it challenging, there?s no fence-sitting on this one!

And as always, feel free to explain your rationale in the comments section.

Should Barry Bonds be elected to the Hall of Fame?

Yes

No

VOTE
 
https://totallytigers.wordpress.com/2022/01/04/watercooler-wednesday-19/
WATERCOOLER WEDNESDAY.
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Today, another chance for readers to have increased opportunities to discuss the hottest topics in a forum where thoughtful conversations and a variety of opinions are welcomed.

Let?s create some running conversation threads with not just comments but replies to others. And for those of you still going into offices, here?s a question to take with you ? or use via Zoom calls ? as you talk to your co-workers.

Here is today?s hot topic. For this blog only, a maximum of 10 sentences please.
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While the MLBPA and MLB wait for the first side to blink, there is still baseball news to report. And the biggest story currently is the announcement of the Hall of Fame?s latest induction class at the end of January.

We?re assuming there will be at least one player. But you never know.

And the same thorny issue is continuing to raise its head as it has for the past 6 years.

Should players who have either tested positive for steroids or shown the unmistakable signs of using them consistently be allowed into the Hall?

Many of these players set records while using PEDs. All of them significantly extended their careers by using them. Careers that normally started to tail off around age 33 were resurrected and allowed these players to put up some of their best numbers from their mid-late 30?s (and sometimes into their 40?s).

The writers who are eligible to vote for players are all given a set of rules to guide them in their voting. And it includes:

?Voting shall be based upon the player?s record, playing ability, integrity, sportsmanship, character, and contributions to the team(s) on which the player played.?

Does using PEDs put a player?s ?integrity, sportsmanship and character? into question?

And if a player put up Hall-worthy stats before using them, should they still be allowed entrance?

Finally, if one player connected to PED use gets admitted, should the rest of them be allowed in?

Where do you stand on this issue?

Should players with unmistakable PED use be voted into the Hall of Fame?

1. Yes.

2. No.

3. Only some but not others.

VOTE
 
https://totallytigers.wordpress.com/2022/01/08/deeper-discussions-13/
DEEPER DISCUSSIONS.
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In just a couple weeks, the BBWAA will announce their list of inductees into the Baseball Hall of Fame.

And once again, the debate over admitting players accused of using PEDs lingers on.

The rules for voting include:

?Voting shall be based upon the player?s record, playing ability, integrity, sportsmanship, character, and contributions to the team(s) on which the player played.?

Obviously PED use can be seen as potentially violating all of the above standards.

But also consider that this year?s candidate class includes players who have lied before Congress, had an inappropriate affair with a minor (that led to her suicide) and 3 players who committed domestic abuse (1 of whom is also being currently sued for sexual harassment.) Unfortunately, there is even more that can be added to this list.

So the question for you, dear readers, is to decide if PED use (defined as having either visual or written evidence combined with continued use) should be given the same weight in the decision process as the crimes outlined in the paragraph above.

Or should PEDs be considered to be a less-important factor in the voting process?

Today?s blog addresses this dilemma and allows readers to share their thoughts in more detail. And hopefully, to actively engage with others by responding to their posts and creating back-and-forth discussion threads. The more the merrier!

For this one blog only, you?ve got 10 sentences max to share your thoughts. Of course, you can respond to as many other readers as you want.

TT will supply the ammunition. One thought-provoking question. Several options provided. One hard choice to be selected. One vote.

Ready?

How much weight should PED usage be given when compared to other character and integrity concerns in voting?

1. Give PEDs the same weight as the other concerns.

2. Assign less weight to PED use when assessing character and integrity.

VOTE
 
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