Wide spread election fraud 2020

[tinselwolverine]

Steely Dan predicted, no stated, in My Old School ?California tumbles into the sea.?

Will you get out before then?

I don?t know.

But I?ve been a strong swimmer since I learned how, all the way back when I was a tiny little kid.

 

[Gulo Blue]

Or you could have just said something ?no, that?s not it. I didn?t like him because...?. The American economy is a troubled asset and it does need to be treated as such - but you have to be out of your mind to think Romney would be the guy that would let it fail like it and take on the recession like we needed to. Just a brief examination of his tenure as Governor of Massachusetts would make that pretty obvious - the guy was a total moderate. And the way he turned around the Salt Lake City Olympics disaster would further indicate maybe he was the right choice for the person to run the American economy.

Also, I fundamentally disagree that being an asshole is inherent to the task of minimizing losses/maximizing gains ?as the ship goes down.? Generally it?s the smart thing to do - as in the case of Toys R Us, they extended the life of that company and the jobs of many of its employees by more than a decade.

Could have said a lot of things. But you couldn't reasonably get your read on me and capitalism.

 

[Gulo Blue]

The American economy is a troubled asset and it does need to be treated as such

Are there any national economies you would not call a troubled asset?

 

[Spartanmack]

Are there any national economies you would not call a troubled asset?

That’s a dumb question. If other economies jump off a bridge should ours also. Is our economy not troubled just because others are worse? Sure, I’m glad I don’t live in Haiti or anywhere else, but that doesn’t mean we’re not in big trouble.

 

[Spartanmack]

Could have said a lot of things. But you couldn't reasonably get your read on me and capitalism.

I wasn’t making a read on you and capitalism. But if pressed, I’d say you’re probably less of a capitalist than you think based on your posts particularly those about universal basic income.

 

[Gulo Blue]

That?s a dumb question. If other economies jump off a bridge should ours also. Is our economy not troubled just because others are worse? Sure, I?m glad I don?t live in Haiti or anywhere else, but that doesn?t mean we?re not in big trouble.

Jump off a bridge? What are you talking about? What is that even supposed to mean?

 

[Gulo Blue]

I wasn?t making a read on you and capitalism. But if pressed, I?d say you?re probably less of a capitalist than you think based on your posts particularly those about universal basic income.

Universal basic income is more suited to capitalism than targeted tax breaks or subsidies. Universal basic income is less suited to capitalism than no universal basic income.

 

[byco42]

Dominion CEO (or proxy) to "answer questions from legislators in Michigan" today @ 1300. It cancelled a scheduled appearance before the PA State Legislature.

 

[Spartanmack]

Jump off a bridge? What are you talking about? What is that even supposed to mean?

You?ve never heard the expression? If other nations are destroying their economy, it doesn?t mean we should also destroy ours. It?s not a valid argument to say our economy is ok because so is everyone else?s or even because everyone else is worse off.

 

[Spartanmack]

Universal basic income is more suited to capitalism than targeted tax breaks or subsidies. Universal basic income is less suited to capitalism than no universal basic income.

it's not a matter of relativism or degrees - claiming to be a capitalist (if you are) because your ideas are less socialist isn't a very strong argument, particularly given the likelihood UBI will be a failure for everyone but the ruling class. UBI is less of a targeted subsidy but it's still a subsidy. It's a form a welfare which we have already shown has been a near complete failure. It's created a dependent class and trapped multiple generations of poor people in poverty - and conveniently, for the ruling class Democrats, it's created a reliable voter base and conveniently for the largest corporations like Walmart, Target, etc, a subsidized low skill labor force. In theory, it may be more suited to capitalism, but in practice it will end up more like communism with the state forcing the ruling class to cover people's basic needs whether they work or not.

Like I said, I can tell the difference between you and MC. It's just that the difference isn't a big as you might think.

 

[byco42]

UBI will come with serious, binding, and unconditional conditions, IMO.

 

[Spartanmack]

UBI will come with serious, binding, and unconditional conditions, IMO.

A step closer to A Brave New World.

 

[tinselwolverine]

Anyway, Senate Majority Leader McConnell has conceded the election results, and has congratulated and addressed J’Biden as President Elect.

 

[Gulo Blue]

You?ve never heard the expression? If other nations are destroying their economy, it doesn?t mean we should also destroy ours. It?s not a valid argument to say our economy is ok because so is everyone else?s or even because everyone else is worse off.

A question about whether a nation is or is not a trouble asset and you answer with an analogy about whether or not you should do something. Makes no sense.

 

[Gulo Blue]

UBI will come with serious, binding, and unconditional conditions, IMO.

This is the greater concern.

 

[tinselwolverine]

UBI will come with serious, binding, and unconditional conditions, IMO.

Don?t we kinda have this already?

 

[byco42]

Don?t we kinda have this already?

Not nearly to the degree that it will become, IMO. UBI will be tied to compliance in ways that presently do not exist.

 

[Gulo Blue]

Not nearly to the degree that it will become, IMO. UBI will be tied to compliance in ways that presently do not exist.

The left can say "we hate drug testing, but we'll submit if we can get UBI" and the right will say "we hate UBI, but we'll submit if we can get drug testing." But really, both could want to track all your purchases and control your finances and try to route all your money through your UBI+ account.

 

[tinselwolverine]

Anyway, Senate Majority Leader McConnell has conceded the election results, and has congratulated and addressed J?Biden as President Elect.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1qcGmxKPemw

 

[Gulo Blue]

Anyway, Senate Majority Leader McConnell has conceded the election results, and has congratulated and addressed J?Biden as President Elect.

Deep state pawn.