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Dirty Politics Exposed

What do you think personal integrity is?

I think it is personal, as in anyone else does not influence it. It cones from within. No degree of public shaming or attempts at humility overcome that, it is what is inside one's head/heart/soul/whatever. So if tsmith wants to pay it, that choice is for him, and him alone to make...because it is Personal.
 
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FYI, from various posts, here's the main thread:http://detroitsportsforum.com/showthread.php?t=9288


tsmith:$1,000 on 2012?????

tsmith:I'm waiting.........................

elrod:$1,000 on 2012????? You serious? I don't even like Barry and with a grand on the line I still won't vote for him, but I think I might take you up on that wager if you mean it.

elrod:So Smitty...you serious about this wager or not?

tsmith:yes, I'm serious

elrod:Let's do it!

tsmith:eek:k... lets get someone to hold the money....how about Mitchrapp?

elrod:Doesn't matter to me either way...I'd trust you to send it directly to me if you lost and I've never squelched on a wager in my life, but however you want to work it is fine...

http://www.detroitsportsforum.com/ar...hp/t-6731.html

tsmith:I'll make the same offer that Elrod took...$1,000..put your money where your mouth is libby

http://www.detroitsportsforum.com/sh...?t=7182&page=2


byco: Did t-smith bet on the electoral vote differential with someone here?
tsmith:Yes sir...Elrod... I got Romney

http://www.detroitsportsforum.com/ar...hp/t-5277.html

tsmith:sorry, drove all over SE Michigan today and didn't see one station under $3.79, so one $4.04.
Michigan is averaging $3.80. Elrod, save your money, you'll need it in Nov when you fork over the $1,000

http://www.detroitsportsforum.com/sh...d.php?p=173520

1. Mods shoukd never allow this type of betting.
2. Tsmith offered to get 3rd party involved which would have been appropriate.
3. If payment woukd have been made, taxes would technically need to be paid.
4. None of this is the responsibility of any posters on the board, only those directly involved. Posters can block, obviously...but 3 years of attempted shaming/bullying/etc have accomplished zero resolution. Time to move on.
 
Nothing you stated requires tsmith to pay up. Sorry, there is nothing other than personal integrity holding him to it. Unless elrod wants to pursue some type of recourse...

That's the whole point, you nincompoop!!! The whole point!!!

he has NO INTEGRITY and LIED about the agreed upon wager.


Only tstupid, elrod, the board witnesses and GOD Herself knows this!!

that has been the point all along!! I fucking covered the $1000 for his ass in the form of a donation to the victims of the Sandy Hook Elem shooting when he LOST my Trump Challenge.
 
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Jesus I wonder if you can even read sometimes.

All the shit tstupid gets on this forum is 100% about personal integrity. Elrod is never getting that money and everyone here knows it, this is not about money, it's about a lying, welching, reneging, honorless waste of DNA who continues to post here and pretend, despite overwhelming evidence (much of it just directly quoted by Red) that the bet did not exist.

How in the fuck you have gone off on all these tangent arguments about this site getting shut down for illegal betting, bookies collecting, or any other nonsense you have spouted off about in this thread truly baffles me.


Sorry ....didn't read Thumb before I posted ...precisely what he did, along with MC!
 
1. Mods shoukd never allow this type of betting.
2. Tsmith offered to get 3rd party involved which would have been appropriate.
3. If payment woukd have been made, taxes would technically need to be paid.
4. None of this is the responsibility of any posters on the board, only those directly involved. Posters can block, obviously...but 3 years of attempted shaming/bullying/etc have accomplished zero resolution. Time to move on.


1. Mods shoukd never allow this type of betting. Mods have no control over it, it does not violate any rules.

2. Tsmith offered to get 3rd party involved which would have been appropriate. Yes he did, but after Elrod said it was not necessary, tsmith had no problems (as evidenced in the quoted threads a few posts back) with the bet after that comment.

3. If payment woukd have been made, taxes would technically need to be paid. Do you go around to all the yard sales you see and lemonade stands run by kids and demand they pay taxes too? Seriously, get real.

4. None of this is the responsibility of any posters on the board, only those directly involved. Posters can block, obviously...but 3 years of attempted shaming/bullying/etc have accomplished zero resolution. Time to move on. It's relevant to the reputation of the poster. It seems odd that a guy who once raised all kinds of hell and called me a "Racist against white people" because I disagreed with his point of view, would choose to beat this drum.
 
The requirement for all legalized gambling is for the money to be put into a neutral location specifically due to people historically backing out.


I'm not being argumentative, but you have no idea what you're talking about. Casinos in gaming towns around the world extend lines of credit to gamblers who meet their qualifications every day. They have the same collection options as any other type of creditor.
 
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zyxt puts on his Johnny Cochrane mustache & tries to defend tLiar, then goes down in flames.
 
That's the whole point, you nincompoop!!! The whole point!!!

he has NO INTEGRITY and LIED about the agreed upon wager.


Only tstupid, elrod, the board witnesses and GOD Herself knows this!!

that has been the point all along!! I fucking covered the $1000 for his ass in the form of a donation to the victims of the Sandy Hook Elem shooting when he LOST my Trump Challenge.

That is HIS personal integrity, not YOURS. You decided to do something, great...but that action does not mean you own him or in any other way control him. He is his own person who makes his own choices, whether others view those as right or wrong on a message board is of zero consequence. You cannot control or influence his personal integrity, yet you continue to try...and fail.
 
I'm not being argumentative, but you have no idea what you're talking about. Casinos in gaming towns around the world extend lines of credit to gamblers who meet their qualifications every day. They have the same collection options as any other type of creditor.

And you failed to grasp that the line of credit is a binding legal co tract with verifiable collateral that may be seized legally. That is a tremendously different situation.
 
And you failed to grasp that the line of credit is a binding legal co tract with verifiable collateral that may be seized legally. That is a tremendously different situation.

What part of "they have the same collection options as any other type of creditor" implies a failure to grasp that it is a binding legal contract?
 
That is HIS personal integrity, not YOURS. You decided to do something, great...but that action does not mean you own him or in any other way control him. He is his own person who makes his own choices, whether others view those as right or wrong on a message board is of zero consequence. You cannot control or influence his personal integrity, yet you continue to try...and fail.

he has no integrity. to wit, he welched on the bet. that is the beginning and end of it all.

I have done nothing but highlight his lack of integrity and acknowledge it is his to control.

you are one weird fucking dude sometimes, and for some reason when I type 'zyxt' into my iPhone it auto-corrects to 'suzy' so forgive me should I ever refer to you as such.
 
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I'm not being argumentative, but you have no idea what you're talking about. Casinos in gaming towns around the world extend lines of credit to gamblers who meet their qualifications every day. They have the same collection options as any other type of creditor.

zyxt puts on his Johnny Cochrane mustache & tries to defend tLiar, then goes down in flames.

1. My arguments are not in an attempt to defend him, that shoukd be clear in my contempt for his lacking personal integrity.
2. I hate cochrane and would never be compared to him by anyone who knows me.
3. My points are being made in order to get you guys to try and move past all of this. You continually harp on it and bang the drum when it is not your money and therefore not your place.

Just move on already.
 
you are one weird fucking dude sometimes, and for some reason when I type 'zyxt' into my iPhone it auto-corrects to 'suzy' so forgive me should I ever refer to you as such.

Ha!

And I think zyxt was nickname for Johnny Cash.
 
1. My arguments are not in an attempt to defend him, that shoukd be clear in my contempt for his lacking personal integrity.
2. I hate cochrane and would never be compared to him by anyone who knows me.
3. My points are being made in order to get you guys to try and move past all of this. You continually harp on it and bang the drum when it is not your money and therefore not your place.

Just move on already.


That's the whole joke, suzy. Every time he posts something we bring up the welching and a thread like this ensues and this time ...he just might have quit altogether! There is no sincere point being made to show some completely anonymous dillhole on the internet has no integrity, we're just fucking with a troll.

Hell, he really could be Kid Rock for all we know.
 
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