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Tigers vs Guardians Game 162 October 1 2023

Spencer Torkelson led all American League first basemen with 31 homers last season and was tied for second with 94 RBIs.
Tigers' first baseman Spencer Torkelson is a silver slugger finalist.

https://www.mlb.com/tigers/news/silver-slugger-award-finalists-2023
Silver Slugger Award finalists announced.
Tigers official site

https://www.blessyouboys.com/2023/1...ugger-nathaniel-lowe-yandy-diaz-triston-casas
Spencer Torkelson named a finalist for the AL Silver Slugger awards.
The Tigers first baseman is one of four finalists for the Silver Slugger award at the position.
BYBTB

https://motorcitybengals.com/posts/...named-al-silver-slugger-finalist-01he8d5kwmwy
Tigers: Spencer Torkelson named AL Silver Slugger finalist.
Spencer Torkelson is being recognized for his improvements in 2023.
MCBTB

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/s...inalist-for-silver-slugger-award/71421296007/
Tigers' Spencer Torkelson a finalist for Silver Slugger award.
Detnews

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/...rkelson-silver-slugger-finalists/71420925007/
Detroit Tigers' Spencer Torkelson named American League Silver Slugger finalist.
Freep

https://www.mlive.com/tigers/2023/11/tigers-spencer-torkelson-is-silver-slugger-finalist.html
Tigers? Spencer Torkelson is Silver Slugger finalist.
Mlive
 
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https://totallytigers.wordpress.com/2023/11/04/deeper-discussions-94/
DEEPER DISCUSSIONS.
Totally Tigers

The Detroit Tigers head into the off-season and GM meetings next week to start the process of re-configuring their roster. Yesterday, they already started.

Two of the biggest contracts will be coming off the books. Miguel Cabrera?s due to retirement. The Tigers will buy out his option year for $8 mill.

And Eduardo Rodriguez just opted out of his contract and leaves $49 mill on the table.

The signing of a veteran outfielder will add $11+ mill to the payroll.

Considering that the roster is now being built with top prospects under team control and making the MLB minimum salary, payroll is expected to drop. It doesn?t mean that the Tigers are looking to cut payroll.

In the past, the very large payrolls of this team were due to the need to buy players because the farm system wasn?t producing.

This is typical for all organizations who are rebuilding. The Orioles, for example, won the AL East with 101 wins. Their payroll, due to their youth, was $71 mill.

Scott Harris has emphasized that the team will not sign players who will block their top prospects from advancing. Remember, free agents prioritize the number of years in a new contract and the better free agents are looking for a minimum of 3 ? 5 years in any new deal.

Currently, the Tigers are set with their #1 catcher, 1Ber, SS and all outfielders. In fact, there is a glut of OFers.

Many expect Colt Keith to make the Opening Day roster. He would play 2B primarily but can also play 3B.

Jace Jung is expected to be in Detroit at some point during the coming year. Until then, Harris and Greenberg will likely have Andy Ibanez, Matt Vierling and Zach McKinstry cover 3B.

What they do need is a #2 catcher. Dillon Dingler, despite his excellent defense, remains a question mark due to his offensive struggles.

And then there are the pitchers. One can never have enough pitching and it expected that the Tigers will go after another front line starter to replace ERod and also add a reclamation project similar to Michael Lorenzen.

Their current starting pitching still has quite a few concerns about how they would perform throughout an entire year although the team does have pitchers who could make up an entire starting rotation.

And then there is the bullpen which is unpredictable each year for every team.

In summary, it appears the team?s greatest needs that require filling from the outside are pitching.

Given the team-controlled youth that is now the majority of the team, combined with fewer holes that need to be filled, should the Tigers actually be adding payroll given that several big contracts are coming off the books?

Or should they be adding more payroll despite several guaranteed contracts disappearing? And if so, how much?

Approximately $40 mill will be coming off the books, however arbitration and guaranteed salary increases will further diminish that number by 1/4th to 1/3rd.

Today?s blog addresses this dilemma and allows readers to share their thoughts in more detail. And hopefully, to actively engage with others by responding to their posts and creating back-and-forth discussion threads. The more the merrier!

For this one blog only, you?ve got 6 sentences max to share your thoughts. Of course, you can also respond to other readers.

TT will supply the ammunition. One thought-provoking question. Several options provided. One hard choice to be selected. One vote.
Ready?

What should the Tigers do about their payroll for the 2024 season? Please consider their needs, the payroll that is coming off the books, salary increases, the poor free agent market and how this organization is now being run.

What should the Tigers do about their payroll for the 2024 season?

1. Add $25 million or less to the payroll.

2. Add up to $50 million.

3. Add more than $50 million to payroll.

VOTE
 
https://www.mlb.com/tigers/news/torkelson-named-tiger-of-the-year
Spencer Torkelson named Tiger of the Year.
Slugger powered team with 31 home runs, 94 RBIs.
Tigers official site

https://motorcitybengals.com/posts/spencer-torkelson-named-tiger-of-the-year-01henpp5cm23
Spencer Torkelson Named Tiger Of The Year.
MCBTB

Spencer made history as the first player in Tigers' history to record 30 or more doubles, 30 or more home runs, and 90 or more RBIs in his age-23 season.
In the second half of the season, Torkelson hit 19 home runs and put up an impressive OPS of .816.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/s...tigers-honors-from-detroit-media/71488124007/
Spencer Torkelson, Tyler Holton earn Tigers honors from Detroit media.
Detnews

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/...torkelson-2023-tiger-of-the-year/71491802007/
Detroit Tigers first baseman Spencer Torkelson wins 2023 Tiger of the Year.
Freep

https://www.mlive.com/tigers/2023/11/spencer-torkelson-named-tiger-of-the-year.html
Spencer Torkelson named Tiger of the Year.
Mlive
 
Lets look at where Tarik Skubal ranked in September:

WHIP: 0.60 - 1st
K%: 39.4% - 1st
wOBA: .166 - 1st
SIERA: 2.21 - 1st
ERA: 0.90 - 2nd
FIP: 1.32 - 2nd
BB%: 3.7% - 7th

The .217 BABIP & 91% LOB are important context too, but that's a helluva way to end 2023.
 
https://blogs.fangraphs.com/sunday-notes-scott-harris-likes-reese-olsons-ceiling/
Scott Harris Likes Reese Olson?s Ceiling.
Fangraphs

Reese Olson has a chance to be a top-of-the-rotation starter in Detroit, and it is notable that the Tigers acquired him via trade. On July 30, 2021, then-general manager Al Avila dealt Daniel Norris to the Milwaukee Brewers in exchange for the now-24-year-old right-hander, who at the time had a 4.30 ERA in High-A and was flying below most prospect radar. Talented but raw, he ranked seventh in a system that wasn?t particularly well-regarded.

Olson made his MLB debut this past June, and by season?s end he was showing signs that he could emerge as a No. 1 or a No. 2.on a promising young staff. Over his last six starts, the plain-spoken Gainesville, Georgia native allowed just 18 hits and six earned runs in 35-and-two-thirds innings. On the year, he had a 3.99 ERA and a 4.01 FIP to go with a 24.4% strikeout rate and a .214 BAA. He fanned 102 batters in 103-and-two-thirds innings.

Scott Harris doesn?t believe in labels like No. 1 starter or No. 2 starter. He does believe in the fast-rising righty.

?Reese has three distinct secondary pitches that miss bats,? Detroit?s President of Baseball Operations told me at this week?s GM meetings. ?That?s really hard to find. He also has two different fastballs that reach the upper 90s. I also think he did some things this summer that reminded me of what other really good pitchers do in their first year in the big leagues. I?m not going to throw those expectations on him, but his ceiling is as high as anyone?s.?

Asked if he could elaborate on ?what other really good pitchers do in their first year,? the exec explained that Olson had stretches of dominance within games that didn?t necessarily translate into a dominant line. Like many young pitchers, he would string together ?three, four innings of truly dominant stuff, then make a couple of mistakes in the zone that lead to home runs.? Harris viewed that as a source of optimism. To him, it suggested that the young hurler was an adjustment away from having dominant stretches for entire starts, if not months or longer.

Olson was coming off of a stellar start ? six scoreless innings against the Minnesota Twins ? when I talked to him at Fenway Park in mid-August. I?d first spoken to him a handful of days after he?d been dealt to Detroit, so I asked him what has changed since his 2021 stint with the West Michigan Whitecaps.

?I added a sinker this year,? said Olson, who was then 175 pounds and is now a sturdier 185. ?Other than that, the arsenal is the same. I?ve just got much better command. That just comes from getting older and stronger and not having to put as much effort into it. I don?t know that I?d say I used to force effort, but I was a little smaller, trying to throw hard.?

Olson averaged 94.8 MPH with both his two- and four-seam fastballs, with the former serving as a primary weapon against right-handed hitters. His slider, which he spun at 2,989 RPM, was his most-used pitch overall. Augmenting those offerings were a 2,800-rpm curveball and a changeup. All five pitches in his repertoire yielded a .280-or-lower wOBA.

His approach on the mound is basically to attack hitters with his five-pitch mix, balancing scouting reports with how well each one is working on a given day. His demeanor on the mound is much the same as what it is is off the field.

?I like to keep it simple,? said the even-keeled Olson. ?Calm down. Don?t get too jacked up. That?s kind of me out there.?
 
While we wait for the Tigers to release their Rule 5 adds, here's some fun stuff.

Looking at inning 7 and later, Torkelson hit the most HRs with 11. He's followed up by Kerry Carpenter (8) and Jake Rogers (7). Any guesses who 4 and 5 would be and how many HRs they hit?
 
Are you confident in Jake Rogers as Catcher #1 for the Tigers next year?

2.2 fWAR (11th)
97 wRC+ (14th, tied)
20 HR (8th, tied)
.444 SLG% (10th)

6.5 Framing (10th)
6 Strike Zone Runs Saved (4th)
11.7 DEF (11th)

(MLB Ranks among catchers with 300 PA/750 innings caught).
 
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