Clowney's Hit

[cmrlily]

Having said that, it was a stunning hit we are likely to be seeing for a long time on the highlight shows. Anyone who thinks otherwise is fooling themselves.

I will grant you that. It was a colossal hit.

It just wasn't a very good play - all it really established is that Clowney can flatten someone about a foot shorter and 75-100 pounds lighter than him.

What was that drill called in HS football where it is essentially a one-on-one tackle drill (the pit?). That's what this was, except in the pit you know the other guy is going to level you more than a half second in advance.

 

[easye688]

I will grant you that. It was a colossal hit.

It just wasn't a very good play - all it really established is that Clowney can flatten someone about a foot shorter and 75-100 pounds lighter than him.

What was that drill called in HS football where it is essentially a one-on-one tackle drill (the pit?). That's what this was, except in the pit you know the other guy is going to level you more than a half second in advance.

Oklahoma Drill I believe.

 

[silverbullet97]

I will grant you that. It was a colossal hit.

It just wasn't a very good play - all it really established is that Clowney can flatten someone about a foot shorter and 75-100 pounds lighter than him.

What was that drill called in HS football where it is essentially a one-on-one tackle drill (the pit?). That's what this was, except in the pit you know the other guy is going to level you more than a half second in advance.

Wasn't a very good play???? Seriously? Might want to reconsider that statement. I get that miscommunication between the tackle and TE made this play possible but that does not take away from the fact that it was a great hit, forced fumble, and fumble recovery all in one nice neat package. And it came during a critical moment in the game after Michigan converted a 4th down.

 

[zyxt9]

Wasn't a very good play???? Seriously? Might want to reconsider that statement. I get that miscommunication between the tackle and TE made this play possible but that does not take away from the fact that it was a great hit, forced fumble, and fumble recovery all in one nice neat package. And it came during a critical moment in the game after Michigan converted a 4th down.

Mike Tirico, is that you? Do me a favor...GO EAT A DICK.

 

[silverbullet97]

Mike Tirico, is that you? Do me a favor...GO EAT A DICK.

No not Mike Tirico. This came from someone that watched the game. The facts are... Michigan had a lead, possession of the football, and had just picked up a 4th down. There are not a lot of players that make that hit in such a devastating manner. There are even less that also recover the fumble. By making that play, Clowney completely reversed the momentum of the game by ending a Michigan drive and giving the ball to USCar with a short field.

I absolutely agree that mistakes on Michigan's part made that play possible but Clowney took advantage of it in a way that very few other players could.

 

[cmrlily]

Wasn't a very good play???? Seriously? Might want to reconsider that statement. I get that miscommunication between the tackle and TE made this play possible but that does not take away from the fact that it was a great hit, forced fumble, and fumble recovery all in one nice neat package. And it came during a critical moment in the game after Michigan converted a 4th down.

How about this - any FBS DE worth a damn could have made the same play. He didn't do anything exceptional, at least not on that play. He capitalized on an O-line miscommunication/eff-up.

He did have a nice play on Michigan's last drive.

 

[silverbullet97]

How about this - any FBS DE worth a damn could have made the same play.

I disagree. Even half a step slower and Smith had a better chance of hanging on to the football

 

[cmrlily]

No not Mike Tirico. This came from someone that watched the game. The facts are... Michigan had a lead, possession of the football, and had just picked up a 4th down. There are not a lot of players that make that hit in such a devastating manner. There are even less that also recover the fumble. By making that play, Clowney completely reversed the momentum of the game by ending a Michigan drive and giving the ball to USCar with a short field.

I absolutely agree that mistakes on Michigan's part made that play possible but Clowney took advantage of it in a way that very few other players could.

No.

There are plenty of defensive ends that, IF UNBLOCKED, could have made that play. Maybe a slightly slower rush end gets there .05 seconds later or does not make it pretty by popping Smith's helmet.

 

[TheVictors]

The truly remarkable aspect of the play was that Clowney actually grabbed the football instead of jumping up to thump his chest and celebrate the tackle.

And that said, there were a half-dozen hits last night in the Sugar Bowl that were more viscious than Clowney's ... including a few where a helmet came flying off too.

 

[byco42]

All I know was that Chucky was chewing on GameCock all afternoon and it was a little bit uncomfortable to witness.

 

[TheVictors]

We felt the same way. I proposed a drinking game where we'd all have to do a shot after each mention of "SEC" by Tirico but we didn't have enough liquor in the house.

Pretty pathetic. The pre-game for last night was gross. Herbstreit is a total sellout and you know all of this comes from producers who are making the talking heads repeat the new company line, pushing the SEC teams and games. And Spielman last night was out of his mind. He goes on about what a "clean" hit Florida made by leading with a shoulder instead of helmet just as the replay shows precisely the opposite.

 

[silverbullet97]

No.

There are plenty of defensive ends that, IF UNBLOCKED, could have made that play. Maybe a slightly slower rush end gets there .05 seconds later or does not make it pretty by popping Smith's helmet.

then how come we dont see those kinds of plays way more often. There are missed blocking assignments in every game. There are big hits in the back field all the time. But we rarely see such a big hit where the defender both causes a fumble and gets the ball.

It was a great play. One that rarely happens. Arguing otherwise is just splitting hairs.

 

[cmrlily]

then how come we dont see those kinds of plays way more often. There are missed blocking assignments in every game. There are big hits in the back field all the time. But we rarely see such a big hit where the defender both causes a fumble and gets the ball.

It was a great play. One that rarely happens. Arguing otherwise is just splitting hairs.

Splitting hairs probably. Maybe other players wouldn't have made the helmet fly backwards, but that's all "ooh" and "ah" to me. Most would've made the tackle and many could've forced the fumble in my opinion. I guess we'll just agree to disagree here.

 

[Michchamp]

then how come we dont see those kinds of plays way more often. There are missed blocking assignments in every game. There are big hits in the back field all the time. But we rarely see such a big hit where the defender both causes a fumble and gets the ball.

It was a great play. One that rarely happens. Arguing otherwise is just splitting hairs.

Splitting hairs probably. Maybe other players wouldn't have made the helmet fly backwards, but that's all "ooh" and "ah" to me. Most would've made the tackle and many could've forced the fumble in my opinion. I guess we'll just agree to disagree here.

it was a great play, but Clowney had been more or less quiet up until that point. they even showed a video montage of how Lewan had pushed him around for most of the first 3 quarters.

then... he goes unblocked on a run play called right to where he was going on his rush. He got a lucky break and he made the most of it.

like CMR said, a lot of DEs in the league could've laid Vincent Smith (the smallest guy on Michigan's team) out like that, and probably forced a fumble, hitting him with the helmet on the ball.

great play? sure, I guess. He didn't miss the tackle, didn't get blown up, forced a fumble and recovered it.

worth going over to a Michigan fan and bragging about it like Vic's coworker(s)? if you're a buckeye fan it makes sense.

In the end, I remain more impressed by Lewan shutting Clowney down whenever he had the assignment than by Clowney laying out Vincent Smith. I'd expect anyone Clowney's size to lay out anyone Vincent Smith's size.

 

[Michchamp]

such small things make history...

Meanwhile, Michigan offensive coordinator Al Borges had called a Power run to the left side. Wolverines offensive tackle Taylor Lewan -- whose play against Clowney on Tuesday further solidified his place near the top of the NFL draft if he chooses to turn pro -- noticed something amiss about Clowney's alignment. "The end lined up on me in such a gray area that I had to call a Deuce to the inside," Lewan said.
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Lewan said (Michigan TE) Kwiatkowski didn't hear the Deuce call, and video replays make that quite obvious. Kwiatkowski fired off the line at an angle that would have been perfect had he and Lewan been working a combo block. But Lewan was working a combo block with guard Ricky Barnum. Clowney, the owner of one of college football's quickest first steps, shot the gap before Kwiatkowski could realize what happened.

Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/co...carolina-michigan-outback-bowl/#ixzz2GwbuZtp8
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Kwiatkowski hears the call? Clowney doesn't get a free shot at Vincent Smith 5 yards in the backfield and Buckeyes are left searching for something else to give their lives meaning.

 

[hungry]

oh please. that hit doesn't even make the top 10 list when analyzed in another 5 years. media over-hyping another SEC player making a play that any good defender would be able to make when untouched. ****ing hate the media over-hype of SEC players. yes it was a good play, but give me a play where the guy actually beats his blocker and makes a similar play anyday. when a guy is unblocked due to a missed assignment, he is SUPPOSED to make a huge play. when a guy actually beats a blocker and still puts on a good hit, THAT is a GREAT play. he came through unblocked and made a very nice form tackle. i've seen high school kids do the same when unblocked due to a missed assignment by the offense.

Wouldn't it have been cool if that were play action and Clownboy had blown up a back that didn't even have the ball, then Gardner rolls around the right end for 10 yards? That would've been cool. Unfortunately, our coaches called another Vincent SMith run up the middle that got blown up.

 

[hungry]

such small things make history...

Meanwhile, Michigan offensive coordinator Al Borges had called a Power run to the left side. Wolverines offensive tackle Taylor Lewan -- whose play against Clowney on Tuesday further solidified his place near the top of the NFL draft if he chooses to turn pro -- noticed something amiss about Clowney's alignment. "The end lined up on me in such a gray area that I had to call a Deuce to the inside," Lewan said.
...
Lewan said (Michigan TE) Kwiatkowski didn't hear the Deuce call, and video replays make that quite obvious. Kwiatkowski fired off the line at an angle that would have been perfect had he and Lewan been working a combo block. But Lewan was working a combo block with guard Ricky Barnum. Clowney, the owner of one of college football's quickest first steps, shot the gap before Kwiatkowski could realize what happened.

Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/co...carolina-michigan-outback-bowl/#ixzz2GwbuZtp8
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Kwiatkowski hears the call? Clowney doesn't get a free shot at Vincent Smith 5 yards in the backfield and Buckeyes are left searching for something else to give their lives meaning.

Damn! Don't tell MB09, I'm pretty sure Kwiatkowski was a walk-on at one point...

 

[GoBlueInAtlanta]

Damn! Don't tell MB09, I'm pretty sure Kwiatkowski was a walk-on at one point...

Here we go again...

(What year is Kwiatkowski?)

 

[hungry]

Here we go again...

(What year is Kwiatkowski?)

Come on, man, its the internet, do I need to look it up? I'm busy!!

 

[boogerlovejoy]

I still think that could have been a personal foul leading with the crown of his helmet. But what do I know....?

NOTHING!!

Jesus ****ing christ you need to understand the rules. You can tackle a ball carrier ANY WAY YOU WANT. Leading with the crown is only a personal foul on a QB or a defensless reciever. In NO WAY, SHAPE or FORM was that a personal foul.