Clowney's Hit

[TheVictors]

settle down, boogerboy, settle down. everything is returning to normal in the state of Michigan college football.

 

[jever4321]

NOTHING!!

Jesus ****ing christ you need to understand the rules. You can tackle a ball carrier ANY WAY YOU WANT. Leading with the crown is only a personal foul on a QB or a defensless reciever. In NO WAY, SHAPE or FORM was that a personal foul.

Hey **** head booger eater,


Targeting/Initiating Contact with Crown of the Helmet
ARTICLE 3. No player shall target and initiate contact against an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul.
PENALTY - Personal foul. 15 yards. For dead-ball fouls, 15 yards from the succeeding spot. Also, automatic first down for Team B fouls if not in conflict with other rules. (Exception: Penalties for Team A personal fouls behind the neutral zone are enforced from the previous spot. Safety if the foul occurs behind Team A’s goal line) [S7, S24, S34, S38, S39, S40, S41, S45 or S46]. Flagrant offenders shall be disqualified [S47].

For Team A fouls during free or scrimmage kick plays: Enforcement may be at the previous spot or the spot where the subsequent dead ball belongs to Team B (field-goal plays exempted) (Rules 6-1-8 and 6-3-13).

Defenseless Player: Contact to Head or Neck Area
ARTICLE 4. No player shall target and initiate contact to the head or neck area of a defenseless opponent with the helmet, forearm, elbow or shoulder. When in question, it is a foul. (See Points of Emphasis for a description of "Defenseless Player.")
PENALTY—(Same as above)


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[TheVictors]

ouch.

 

[GoBlueInAtlanta]

Come on, man, its the internet, do I need to look it up? I'm busy!!

I thought you might know off the top of your head.

I have since, quite by accident, seen that he will be gone next year, relieving M&B of having to inform us each and every week that he was a walk-on.

 

[silverbullet97]

Splitting hairs probably. Maybe other players wouldn't have made the helmet fly backwards, but that's all "ooh" and "ah" to me. Most would've made the tackle and many could've forced the fumble in my opinion. I guess we'll just agree to disagree here.

Fair enough.

 

[hungry]

NOTHING!!

Jesus ****ing christ you need to understand the rules. You can tackle a ball carrier ANY WAY YOU WANT. Leading with the crown is only a personal foul on a QB or a defensless reciever. In NO WAY, SHAPE or FORM was that a personal foul.

No you can't. You can't utilize a horsecollar tackle nor can you tackle a person by grabbing any part of their helmet. Any way you want? Sounds like you don't know much about football, but we already knew that!@!

 

[TheVictors]

Those are the rules in Sparta, Hungry.


You can use spears, maces, swords, spiked clubs ...you know, whatever it takes.

 

[tsume99]

. . .You can use spears, maces, swords, spiked clubs ...you know, whatever it takes.

Don't forget that old standby: the QB neck twist!

 

[GoBlueInAtlanta]

Don't forget that old standby: the QB neck twist!

And the right cross to the throat.

 

[hungry]

Yeah! And if you don't like it, you just ain't tough enough!!

 

[rumseyhouse77]

Hey **** head booger eater,


Targeting/Initiating Contact with Crown of the Helmet
ARTICLE 3. No player shall target and initiate contact against an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul.
PENALTY - Personal foul. 15 yards. For dead-ball fouls, 15 yards from the succeeding spot. Also, automatic first down for Team B fouls if not in conflict with other rules. (Exception: Penalties for Team A personal fouls behind the neutral zone are enforced from the previous spot. Safety if the foul occurs behind Team A?s goal line) [S7, S24, S34, S38, S39, S40, S41, S45 or S46]. Flagrant offenders shall be disqualified [S47].

For Team A fouls during free or scrimmage kick plays: Enforcement may be at the previous spot or the spot where the subsequent dead ball belongs to Team B (field-goal plays exempted) (Rules 6-1-8 and 6-3-13).


Defenseless Player: Contact to Head or Neck Area
ARTICLE 4. No player shall target and initiate contact to the head or neck area of a defenseless opponent with the helmet, forearm, elbow or shoulder. When in question, it is a foul. (See Points of Emphasis for a description of "Defenseless Player.")
PENALTY?(Same as above)


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Ah jeez Jever, did you have to slap him so hard? Ha!

Don't know if Clowney lead with the crown of his helmet or not. Have to go back and look at it again. I would judge it to be as much a blow to the head as that hit by Crable on Troy Smith back in 06. How else does the helmet fly off? I would have loved to see them call that a personal foul just to see Spurrier have a stroke on the sidelines. Have the feeling they didn't call it because of the previous 1st down call.

 

[TheVictors]

I wouldn't be surprised to see some Spartan defender grab one of the superhot chicks that goes to State right out of the stands and throw her in front of an opposing RB.

Hell, they got enough to spare a few in the name of Sparta!

 

[jever4321]

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[allshouldbleedblue]

the funny thing is, now that you called him out boogerboy will be nowhere to be found.

 

[jever4321]

the funny thing is, now that you called him out boogerboy will be nowhere to be found.

Yeah, Typical troll. He'll pop back up at some point and act like it never happened.

 

[redandguilty]

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If that isn't initiating contact with the crown of the helmet, I don't know what is...but considering the previous play, letting it slide isn't that big a deal. It's an illegal play benefiting from a deserved make-up call, not the highlight people are making it out to be.

 

[zyxt9]

Ok, I haven issue with lewan calling deuce but not getting a reply back to indicate the deuce call was heard and understood. Not knocking lewan, but the coaches. Wouldn't u want there to be an acknowledgment response before just taking off in another direction? That's a coaching issue IMO.

 

[TheVictors]

New York, New York,
It's a Helluva Town,
You Know the Bronx is Up,
But Now Brooklyn's Down....

They Don't My Name, ......

 

[jever4321]

If that isn't initiating contact with the crown of the helmet, I don't know what is...but considering the previous play, letting it slide isn't that big a deal. It's an illegal play benefiting from a deserved make-up call, not the highlight people are making it out to be.

I understand that stance and usually agree with some measure of "make up calls" by the refs, I can't get over the glaring difference of the two plays. On one hand it was clean in the fact that S.Car got the ball back immediately, but player safety should be the ultimate concern for the officials. Clowney is a foot taller and 100 pounds heavier than Smith. What's that in percentages? 20% taller and almost 40% heavier than Smith. Anyway you slice it smith was going to get crushed, but if clowney wrapped him up instead of popping him in the facemask with the crown of his helmet I think smith holds onto the ball and maybe his head gear stays in place. It's pretty amazing Vincent smith didn't get seriously injured on that play.

The 4th down play that resulted in a first down was a clean play just came up an inch short and the ref called it a first down. Both calls are judgement calls I guess. Both plays bring a momentum shift. I guess I would have rather seen the refs review the call on the field, of spurrier challenge the first down call than watch a player bear the burden of that make up call the way Vincent smith did.

 

[byco42]

New York, New York,
It's a Helluva Town,
You Know the Bronx is Up,
But Now Brooklyn's Down....

They Don't My Name, ......

That was a good movie.

EDIT: And Jever definitely led with the crown with his flattening of Boooger-Eater.