Going Vegan cured type ll Diabetes in former Player

[biggunsbob]

Marc Ramirez

http://detroitsportsforum.com/newthread.php?do=postthread&f=42

Very cool

 

[michdad1]

Marc Ramirez

http://detroitsportsforum.com/newthread.php?do=postthread&f=42

Very cool

No surprise here. Nearly every disease can be cured through proper nutrition. You just have to know what to give the body to let it do it's job. Virtually all food today is depleated of the nutrients that our body's need to function. Leave out any co-factor and the body cannot do it's job.

 

[byco42]

No surprise here. Nearly every disease can be cured through proper nutrition. You just have to know what to give the body to let it do it's job. Virtually all food today is depleated of the nutrients that our body's need to function. Leave out any co-factor and the body cannot do it's job.

One reason for this is because the soil is devoid of essential minerals.

 

[Michchamp]

One reason for this is because the soil is devoid of essential minerals.

true. however the soil has plenty of arsenic, lead, mercury, ammonium nitrate, PCBs, dioxin, etc. so let's not act like its all bad news.

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

For the record, most sugar is vegan.

 

[biggunsbob]

Sugar is hard to lessen with everything thing in this world pumped with so much high fructose corn syrup. I am better at reading labels,and using less raw sugar in my coffee. (It's hard to stop Splenda lol). Man the sugar industry is just another in a long line of DECIEVERS !!!!!

 

[tinselwolverine]

No surprise here. Nearly every disease can be cured through proper nutrition.

I have cured of myself of gonorrhea, syphilis, herpes, crabs, and the climidia through a diet that included absolutely nothing except beef jerky and Hostess cupcakes and Twinkies pies and other aweets and Mickey's grenade six packs and fifths of Jack Daniels.

So I absolutely agree with the whole nutrition ratio thing.

Although as I recall I did have to trim a little bit down there to deal with the crabs.

 

[michdad1]

I have cured of myself of gonorrhea, syphilis, herpes, crabs, and the climidia through a diet that included absolutely nothing except beef jerky and Hostess cupcakes and Twinkies pies and other aweets and Mickey's grenade six packs and fifths of Jack Daniels.

So I absolutely agree with the whole nutrition ratio thing.

Although as I recall I did have to trim a little bit down there to deal with the crabs.

And I'm certain with your Magical Mickey Mouse degree you have nothing to worry about.

 

[Spartan23MSU]

I have cured of myself of gonorrhea, syphilis, herpes, crabs, and the climidia through a diet that included absolutely nothing except beef jerky and Hostess cupcakes and Twinkies pies and other aweets and Mickey's grenade six packs and fifths of Jack Daniels.

So I absolutely agree with the whole nutrition ratio thing.

Although as I recall I did have to trim a little bit down there to deal with the crabs.

We need to pass this info along to Fred "The Dorf" Dorfman.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jo1TAgEHJU

 

[tinselwolverine]

And I'm certain with your Magical Mickey Mouse degree you have nothing to worry about.

Yep.

The Beatles wrote a song about that.

The Magical Mickery Mouse is coming to take us away...

 

[Michlady]

The whole sugar increase over past 45 years is scary. The amount we consume now vs 1970 is amazing. A lot due to HFCS. I am guilty of increase and trying to scale way back

 

[hungry]

Sugar is hard to lessen with everything thing in this world pumped with so much high fructose corn syrup. I am better at reading labels,and using less raw sugar in my coffee. (It's hard to stop Splenda lol). Man the sugar industry is just another in a long line of DECIEVERS !!!!!

I do my best to avoid high fructose corn syrup. Problem is, it's in a lot of things now. Several of the more common beers are now nothing more than fermented high fructose corn syrup. Of course, they don't tell you this. Several popular alcohols have it in them, as well. They'll hide it under the ol' "natural flavors" ingredient.

I was going to say something along the lines of what Maizeandblue said though and that most meats are pretty much devoid of sugar. As I understand the vegan lifestyle, it would seem very, very difficult to get proper nutrition from a meal plan like that. I would never try as I love to eat meat ( i try to stick to unprocessed meats) and I believe that meat is a completely, natural part of a human's diet. I eat about a half a pound of beef almost every single day and I eat a lot of chicken and fish, as well. I'm the picture of perfect health at age 45. I understand, though, that every single human is different. We aren't like lab mice...too many variables to have a one diet fits all situation.

Learn to drink your coffee straight, man. That's the best and the most healthy. You really do learn to taste the bean that way. I never truly appreciated coffee when i was throwing in sweetener and/or milk.

 

[tinselwolverine]

I understand, though, that every single human is different. We aren't like lab mice...too many variables to have a one diet fits all situation.

This guy says it's about the blood type. It's a pretty well-known book.

The Atkins/Paleo type of diet you said you adhere to this guy says is best for blood type O.

 

[hungry]

This guy says it's about the blood type. It's a pretty well-known book.

The Atkins/Paleo type of diet you said you adhere to this guy says is best for blood type O.

Well, maybe there is something to that since I'm O+

I was adhering to that pretty well for a while, but i'm not really right now. I just like bread too much, i guess and things made with bread. It was very effective while I did it, though. I got kind of sick of making and eating so many salads, though.

 

[biggunsbob]

I do my best to avoid high fructose corn syrup. Problem is, it's in a lot of things now. Several of the more common beers are now nothing more than fermented high fructose corn syrup. Of course, they don't tell you this. Several popular alcohols have it in them, as well. They'll hide it under the ol' "natural flavors" ingredient.

I was going to say something along the lines of what Maizeandblue said though and that most meats are pretty much devoid of sugar. As I understand the vegan lifestyle, it would seem very, very difficult to get proper nutrition from a meal plan like that. I would never try as I love to eat meat ( i try to stick to unprocessed meats) and I believe that meat is a completely, natural part of a human's diet. I eat about a half a pound of beef almost every single day and I eat a lot of chicken and fish, as well. I'm the picture of perfect health at age 45. I understand, though, that every single human is different. We aren't like lab mice...too many variables to have a one diet fits all situation.

Learn to drink your coffee straight, man. That's the best and the most healthy. You really do learn to taste the bean that way. I never truly appreciated coffee when i was throwing in sweetener and/or milk.

Yeah I have to straight on coffee . Love the smell just hate without sugar . I have not had any meat or chicken for now four months and don't feel unhealthy at all. You don't need meat to survive. But like you said ever individual is different. One thing I notice when talking to people (no one on this board) is they always get defensive about me be not drinking milk or eating meat, and how much they like meat. I am only telling people why I did it and don't really care if others do. My issues are more along ethical issues then health reasons. Heck I weight 165 to 175 at 54 years old. Not like I am overweight.

 

[hungry]

Yeah I have to straight on coffee . Love the smell just hate without sugar . I have not had any meat or chicken for now four months and don't feel unhealthy at all. You don't need meat to survive. But like you said ever individual is different. One thing I notice when talking to people (no one on this board) is they always get defensive about me be not drinking milk or eating meat, and how much they like meat. I am only telling people why I did it and don't really care if others do. My issues are more along ethical issues then health reasons. Heck I weight 165 to 175 at 54 years old. Not like I am overweight.

I'm not saying you're healthy or unhealthy, but weight alone is not that great of a measure of healthiness. It is one measure. There are a lot of other variables to consider, for example blood pressure, lean body mass, resting heart rate, electrolyte levels, hormone levels, and many more. A thin man can still be a ticking time bomb.

I think people do need to eat meat to survive and be healthy, but I understand I'm probably not going to convince you.

 

[biggunsbob]

I'm not saying you're healthy or unhealthy, but weight alone is not that great of a measure of healthiness. It is one measure. There are a lot of other variables to consider, for example blood pressure, lean body mass, resting heart rate, electrolyte levels, hormone levels, and many more. A thin man can still be a ticking time bomb.

I think people do need to eat meat to survive and be healthy, but I understand I'm probably not going to convince you.

I understand. Just like I am not going to change your mind. I Will see when my annul blood work up is done this October but I disagree that you can't get enough nutrients from other stuff besides meat. You don't need milk or meat. I really can't work out because of my back so even though I am thin I know I can't walk miles, and I am hyper as hell so my blood pressure can be werid at times. Working on that too., and I am interested in see my blood pressure numbers after a full 9 months off of meat and pus filled milk and cheese.. Hey not saying I don't miss a steak every now and then. Cant believe I have held out this long.

 

[tinselwolverine]

I'm not saying you're healthy or unhealthy, but weight alone is not that great of a measure of healthiness. It is one measure. There are a lot of other variables...electrolyte levels...

Electrolyte levels?

That's for real thing?

I thought that was just some bullshit to sell Gatorade to drunks with hangovers.

You know, marketing to expand beyond the jock market into the hung over drunk market.

That electrolyte shit is for real?

And they got a way to measure it, you know, beyond the amount of Gatorade you drink when you wake up hung over?

 

[hungry]

Electrolyte levels?

That's for real thing?

I thought that was just some bullshit to sell Gatorade to drunks with hangovers.

You know, marketing to expand beyond the jock market into the hung over drunk market.

That electrolyte shit is for real?

And they got a way to measure it, you know, beyond the amount of Gatorade you drink when you wake up hung over?

Hmmmmmm don't know if serious

Yeah. They check your potassium, magnesium, and all sorts of nutrient levels in your blood when doing a blood test. Make sure you're getting enough Vitamin D, C, A, and all of that stuff.

Gatorade is marketed as something that will help you maintain your electrolyte levels, but i don't think it really does. It's basically just sugar water with a little magnesium thrown in. I'm more interested in potassium than magnesium.

 

[Gulo Blue]

The whole sugar increase over past 45 years is scary. The amount we consume now vs 1970 is amazing. A lot due to HFCS. I am guilty of increase and trying to scale way back

Completely agree. You walked the wire just right with this statement. There's nothing magic about the calories from HFCS, but it's a dirt cheap way to make things sweet and adds tons of calories to our national diet.