so who are 4 teams with a better resume than Michigan and why?

[thewolverines24]

I like it better than any other post season in any other sport. Best regular season as well.

It is the best regular season, but the postseason is trash. There's 42 bowl games when you include the playoffs. People care about 7 or 8 of those 42. The rest are empty stadiums for a reason. They suck.

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[Spartanmack]

I think only Alabama and OSU are better than Michigan. I don't think Clemson is and while I don't want to pile on against a West Coast program like the media does, I don't fully think UW is either. The Iowa loss is what it is, but a few years ago if a "2-loss Auburn" who'd lost to "Alabama" in double-OT in Tuscaloosa had also lost earlier in the year to Georgia, the narrative would be how deserving Auburn is, because the "SEC is just so dagummit tough."

Most preseason speculation had UM at 10-2 with losses to Iowa and OSU and that's exactly what happened, along with more than a few blowouts - including over two Top 10 teams - and a gritty win vs #5/6 Wisconsin. OSU could just as easily be a 3-loss team but for a few breaks in Madison and at home.

It's sort of exactly what happened - those predictions were predicated on the belief that Iowa was really good. not only are they not really good, they stink. I think even if osu hadn't lost to PSU and instead went to Indy and won the B1G champ game, mich with the same resume would end up being left out because fairly or unfairly, they'd get penalized heavily for the Iowa loss. Of course, this is all conjecture and just my opinion but without beating OSU and winning the B1G, the only path for michigan was to have just one loss to OSU (I guess it's not the only way - you could work up a bunch of hypothetical scenarios like if they beat OSU but lost to an undefeated B1G champ PSU, etc).

 

[hungry]

You may not be able to say they won the head-to-head so OSU is better, but you can say they won the head-to-head so they are more deserving of a spot in the playoff. Also, they have fewer losses and their loss to PSU is better than your loss to Iowa. So clearly, whether they are better or not, OSU deserves a spot in the playoff ahead of michigan. So does Alabama - because Alabama is better.

Yes, i listed OSU and Alabama ahead of MIchigan and then i said, "who else?"

 

[Michchamp]

Iowa stinks?

they finished 8-4, Sagarin has them 23rd with a moderately difficult SOS (48th overall).

teams that stink: MSU, Rutgers, Purdue, Illinois. Even maybe Indiana, or Maryland. Iowa is "above average." "decent" even.

 

[mhughes0021]

It would just be so ****ed if michigan and OSU get in over the b1G champion lmao. I hope to god it happens just for comedy sake.

 

[thewolverines24]

It would just be so ****ed if michigan and OSU get in over the b1G champion lmao. I hope to god it happens just for comedy sake.

It would make sense considering Michigan and OSU are the better teams.

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[TheVictors]

It's sort of exactly what happened - those predictions were predicated on the belief that Iowa was really good. not only are they not really good, they stink. I think even if osu hadn't lost to PSU and instead went to Indy and won the B1G champ game, mich with the same resume would end up being left out because fairly or unfairly, they'd get penalized heavily for the Iowa loss. Of course, this is all conjecture and just my opinion but without beating OSU and winning the B1G, the only path for michigan was to have just one loss to OSU (I guess it's not the only way - you could work up a bunch of hypothetical scenarios like if they beat OSU but lost to an undefeated B1G champ PSU, etc).

It was also because at Iowa at night in November has been tricky for Michigan - their Trap game for a few years now. Sort of like Ohio st at PSU is their trap game.

Only as it played out, our Trap came too late and instead of M beating PSU head to head, it's how PSU barely beating OSU makes them better than UM

 

[biggunsbob]

There should be 14 teams.

I'm down with 14 teams !!!!!!

 

[biggunsbob]

I'm not excited for orange and or rose bowl. Don't care how long it's been the Rose Bowl just has no significance anymore unless it's part of the final 4 as it should be every year. Be hard to get up for either game.when this team should be in the final 4.
I'LL watched but won't be excited for it like in the olden days.

 

[mhughes0021]

It would make sense considering Michigan and OSU are the better teams.

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What if Condeleeza Rice held a pres conference to announce Michigan and OSU getting in and when asked why she stated that the committee thought Michigan actually won that game and the 4th down call was bullshit. Would Jim be allowed to get his $10k back?

 

[hungry]

Iowa stinks?

they finished 8-4, Sagarin has them 23rd with a moderately difficult SOS (48th overall).

teams that stink: MSU, Rutgers, Purdue, Illinois. Even maybe Indiana, or Maryland. Iowa is "above average." "decent" even.

Thanks for looking into this. The idea that Iowa stinks stinks. Let's not forget that Wadley was injured pre-Michigan game and returned against MIchigan and they looked pretty good since then.

 

[hungry]

I almost forgot, but had to thank my Penn St fan wife for helping me remember

Let's not forget that Michigan beat PSU by 39 points, but that doesn't even tell the entire story. Michigan started subbing players 5 minutes into the 2nd half of that game. Michigan could've put up a 70-spot in that game and won by 60. That is how bad the domination was in that game and that people are forgetting...

 

[thewolverines24]

I almost forgot, but had to thank my Penn St fan wife for helping me remember

Let's not forget that Michigan beat PSU by 39 points, but that doesn't even tell the entire story. Michigan started subbing players 5 minutes into the 2nd half of that game. Michigan could've put up a 70-spot in that game and won by 60. That is how bad the domination was in that game and that people are forgetting...

I mentioned this earlier as well. People are trying to use them having injured LBs as the excuse. They could have had Ray Lewis and Patrick Willis at LB and it wouldn't have mattered.

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[tsume99]

I mentioned this earlier as well. People are trying to use them having injured LBs as the excuse. They could have had Ray Lewis and Patrick Willis at LB and it wouldn't have mattered.

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They also had Barkley for that game, as I recall; I'm pretty sure Michigan's defense shut him down.

 

[jwlcosu]

I think we can all agree 4 teams is not enough to constitute a legitimate playoff.

It's a joke postseason.

Not all of us. The regular season counts. All week, in the build up to The Game, the buzz was that this year's edition was tantamount to a playoff game. In all likelihood, it effectively was. And for the record, if OSU doesn't get in, oh well, shoulda beat Penn State.

The best argument for keeping it at four is to retain the integrity, impact and excitement of the regular season. Last year, MSU should not have had to defeat OSU twice in order to win the National Championship (had they won). Penn State may be able to make that claim this year and I wouldn't have a problem with it.

 

[dubbsco]

Oh you guys are in. I don't think there's any debate there.

The question is that if Washington falls out and Penn State wins, putting in Penn State over Michigan would be a horrible decision.

 

[thewolverines24]

Not all of us. The regular season counts. All week, in the build up to The Game, the buzz was that this year's edition was tantamount to a playoff game. In all likelihood, it effectively was. And for the record, if OSU doesn't get in, oh well, shoulda beat Penn State.

The best argument for keeping it at four is to retain the integrity, impact and excitement of the regular season. Last year, MSU should not have had to defeat OSU twice in order to win the National Championship (had they won). Penn State may be able to make that claim this year and I wouldn't have a problem with it.

Yeah because if it expands to 8 teams, college football fans are just going to stop caring about the regular season. Why have a legit postseason to go along with a great regular season when you can have 36 meaningless bowl games?!

Has anyone considered the fact that fans might care MORE about the regular season because their team will have a legitimate shot at competing for a national title?

 

[Michchamp]

espn and a couple other places are projecting us to be 5th in the next CFP rankings...
meaning a loss by either Clemson or Washington would likely put us in.

Come on... come on...

 

[dubbsco]

If both lose, they'd have a hard time keeping Michigan out.

If Washington lost, maybe.

 

[TheVictors]

espn and a couple other places are projecting us to be 5th in the next CFP rankings...
meaning a loss by either Clemson or Washington would likely put us in.

Come on... come on...

CU fans are saying that they will 'jump' MICHIGAN if they beat UW and it will be a UM vs UW Rose Bowl match up from 92 & 93.

Their rationale, despite the head-to-head loss vs UM, is the old ..."you didn't win your Conf Division, therefore aren't eligible."

They're still salty over the 62-36 whipping of #1 Nebraska and Big-12 Championship and being shut out of the BCS Title game.