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    Game 4: Lions @ Packers *Thursday Night* Thread

    Stat onscreen - Packers QBs have thrown 4 INTs in the previous 2 games against the Lions. Why even put that up? The Packers QB in the previous 2 games doesn't even play for them anymore. Also, 3 of the 4 picks came back in November. Who decides what goes on screen?
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    Top 5 Prospects

    A day later, dropping in the draft still stings. But I'm not overly pessimistic. The likelihood of getting Wemby was low. The ultimate fate of this team was always going to rest on development and building teamwork (rather than the Houston talent-only approach). The players this year after the...
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    Chicago 103 Detroit 81 Final

    I'd be very excited to land Wemby. I don't know how much stock to put in him as a LeBron level prospect, but he looks really good. He's a truly modern big. And at the very least, it could ensure we don't re-sign Wiseman.
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    Westbrick Crosses the Hall

    It's tough. On one hand, screw the Lakers. On the other, I can't help but enjoy how the Clippers managed to trade their entire future, build one of the most expensive teams in history, and can barely make them playoffs. Neither team is an actual contender, so no matter who loses, all of us win.
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    How do we view Jalen Carter?

    Coming into the off-season, Jalen Carter was considered a top prospect in the draft (the actual highest rated prospect on a lot of big boards). However, it's not been the best cycle for him. He plead no contest to street racing (which led to the death of a teammate, though not his fault). And...
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    Magic 128 Pistons 102 Final

    So, can anyone explain why Wiseman keeps starting over Duren? The season is over from any competitive standpoint, and even after acquiring him, Wiseman has looked like one of the lowest bball IQ players (especially defensively) in the entire league. Is he our tank commander, or is Casey and the...
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    Houston 121 Detroit 115 Final

    You've got me there, then. Stew probably isn't the finisher around the basket that the other guys are. But I'll still take potential outside shooting and real defense.
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    Houston 121 Detroit 115 Final

    That's because he actually takes shots outside of the deep paint. I don't consider finishing lobs and dunking offensive rebounds as "shooting". Stew isn't great at it, just 32% from three, but that's probably depressed a little by our inability to generate open shots. He's 54% on 2s, and if I...
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    Top 5 Prospects

    With 5 games left in the season, the Pistons are a full three games "ahead" in the race to the bottom of the standings. Notwithstanding a massive upset in these last games, the Pistons will end the season with the worst record. So, which are everyone's favorite five prospects in the draft? We...
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    Houston 121 Detroit 115 Final

    Stewart is really the best player of the four right now. Duren has the most potential, but I'd take Stew over Bagley and Wiseman in a heartbeat. Stew may actually be able to shoot, and he's worlds better as a defender. Bagley never should have been extended, and Wiseman is about to be a...
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    Trade Deadline

    You should watch the "highlights" of Wiseman's defense. For a team that can't seem to implement even a basic defensive infrastructure (us, btw), there's little reason to suspect he's suddenly going to turn things around under Casey.
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    Trade Deadline

    Looking like Atlanta have up all those seconds, not us. That's a positive. So from our perspective, just Bey for Wiseman. It still feels so pointless. We don't need another Marvin Bagley (with less bball IQ!), and we don't just have a massive need for minutes at the 5. We are one of the worst...
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    Trade Deadline

    Is Weaver high? We'd be giving up the better player AND picks! What is his obsession with bigs who suck and don't fit the modern NBA? At least Duren is showing promise. But we already have Bagley as our token high pick guy who adds nothing to a winning team.
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    2023 Off-Season Thread

    It's useful to see that even in that data, they only claim 3/4ths of a win added. If someone wanted to argue that we were more of an 8-9 team than 9-8, I can't imagine I would put it much fight. The defense was legitimately horrendous at times, and this offseason will need to address it. Get to...
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    With the 6th pick... the detroit lions select

    I want to agree, but past drafts make me think teams are just going to get crazy. The 2021 draft is a nightmare here. I know the Bears have said they love Fields, but the dude is one of the worst throwers in the league. I think there's a much better than 50% chance they actually take QB1. That...
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    With the 6th pick... the detroit lions select

    If one of the top QBs falls, the team would have to take them. Don't trade up, though. There is a near zero chance that happens. If Carter falls, take him. Also not worth trading up, he's good but not Aaron Donald. Only a slightly better chance of this than Stroud/Young falling. If Levis is...
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    Pacers 123 Pistons 115 Final

    I get not trusting the draft. As a Piston fan especially. But I think we just disagree on a few points. First, Zion is actually awesome. Yeah, he can't seem to stay healthy, but he's unstoppable on the court. I personally don't know how to weigh that with pre-draft expectations. He IS the guy...
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    Pacers 123 Pistons 115 Final

    Are we arguing "pointed tanking"? I'm not saying the Pistons shouldn't be trying to win right now. They are just really bad, so trying isn't enough. And as a fan (as opposed to being a player on the team), I can be happy for losses when I know REAL wins (the kind that get you into the playoffs...
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    Pacers 123 Pistons 115 Final

    In fairness, 70 losses is probably outside the realm of possibility. But you get my point. Wenbamyama is arguably the greatest prospect since LeBron. Scoot would go first in most drafts. Hell, even the next group of wings would immediately supplant anybody we are starting (Cade and Ivey could...
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    Pacers 123 Pistons 115 Final

    Has all the losing in the last decade paid off? No. For one, the team has only picked in the top 5 (there most lucrative picks) twice, each of the last two years. The team refused to actually rebuild, because the front office was painfully stupid. A team incapable of winning anything, and yet...
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