2023 Off-Season Thread

[boogerlovejoy]

Any relations to Bubba Baker..

No, but we need DE in the worst way.....even if he is 66 years old.

Budda Baker would be nice, too.

 

[kdp1980]

No, but we need DE in the worst way.....even if he is 66 years old.

Budda Baker would be nice, too.

I disagree. Harris(full year after injury), Houston, Okwara bros, Hutch, Comisky, Josh Pascal. We are absolutely fine

 

[LKP]

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/05/10/christian-covington-to-sign-with-lions/

Lions sign DT Chrisitan Covington

 

[mhughes0021]

Trade for chase young.

 

[tigermud]

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/05/10/christian-covington-to-sign-with-lions/

Lions sign DT Chrisitan Covington

There we go! oh we doing this!

 

[LKP]

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.c...-finalizing-three-year-extension-with-texans/

Shaq Mason just got 3 years 36 million, 22 guaranteed

Do you give that to Jonah Jackson this offseason or let right before FA next year or let him walk?

 

[grandy]

Lions-Chiefs open season on TNF Sept 7.

https://twitter.com/Schultz_Report/status/1656616335982354433?s=20

 

[grandy]

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.c...-finalizing-three-year-extension-with-texans/

Shaq Mason just got 3 years 36 million, 22 guaranteed

Do you give that to Jonah Jackson this offseason or let right before FA next year or let him walk?

I?m OK with spending on O-line, but I worry how expensive it will get considering Sewell will be due up in the near future. Jonah is good but I don?t think he?s that good. Think they can get similar production through the draft on a cheaper rookie deal.

 

[LKP]

I?m OK with spending on O-line, but I worry how expensive it will get considering Sewell will be due up in the near future. Jonah is good but I don?t think he?s that good. Think they can get similar production through the draft on a cheaper rookie deal.

Got to replace two guards then with Vaitai, Glasgow and Jackson all FAs. Sorsdal a little too raw and Awosika/Stenberg (FAs next year too) not the answer either

Pay Jackson then go cheap rookie for RG with Sorsdal the backup or see if you can pay Glasgow on a cheap two year deal next year.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Minor but the rook RB hurt his ankle day 1. Will only miss a couple days but that was quick.

 

[LKP]

Minor but the rook RB hurt his ankle day 1. Will only miss a couple days but that was quick.

Zero reason to push him but yes that is annoying

Now if is missing multiple OTAs coming up, then you get concerned.

 

[boogerlovejoy]

Minor but the rook RB hurt his ankle day 1. Will only miss a couple days but that was quick.

lol. FUCK. What is up with Lions RB injuries? We get a RB.....he cannot stay healthy. The list is so fucking long. Since Barry....

Kevin Jones - 1 Good year and then injuries cost him what would have been a good career.

Kevin Smith - 1 Good year and then injuries cost him would would have been a solid career.

Jahvid Best - Concussions cost him his entire career. Would have been special IMO.

Mikel LeShoure - Major achilles injury before his first NFL carry. 1 OK year and then injuries cost him his career.

Ameer Abdullah - Never even had a good year. Injuries and fumbles kept him from being anything more than a journeyman RB.

Kerryon Johnson - Whether it was that fat bastard Patricia or just injuries.....guy had talent but couldn't stay on the field. Cost him what would have been a good career. Guy is only 25 years old TODAY and his knees wont let him even attempt a comeback.

Deandre Swift - Most talented of this group. Has 2800 scrimmage yards in 3 years. That's a LOT of yards considering how often he has been hurt. Misses huge chunks of each season. Not completely.....he just can never stay healthy enough to touch the ball more than 5-10 a game. I would have given him another year.....but I understand wanting someone you can count on.

Jahmyr Gibbs - One practice. One injury.

That is one IMPRESSIVE list of RB's that had little to no impact because they couldn't stay on the field.

 

[LKP]

Don't forget Reggie Bush injuries too in 2013/2014

Jamaal Williams stayed healthy!! And got 17 TDS for a franchise record

Joique Bell UDFA years too

Montgomery and Gibbs better stay healthy during the season

 

[Mitchrapp]

lol. FUCK. What is up with Lions RB injuries? We get a RB.....he cannot stay healthy. The list is so fucking long. Since Barry....

Kevin Jones - 1 Good year and then injuries cost him what would have been a good career.

Kevin Smith - 1 Good year and then injuries cost him would would have been a solid career.

Jahvid Best - Concussions cost him his entire career. Would have been special IMO.

Mikel LeShoure - Major achilles injury before his first NFL carry. 1 OK year and then injuries cost him his career.

Ameer Abdullah - Never even had a good year. Injuries and fumbles kept him from being anything more than a journeyman RB.

Kerryon Johnson - Whether it was that fat bastard Patricia or just injuries.....guy had talent but couldn't stay on the field. Cost him what would have been a good career. Guy is only 25 years old TODAY and his knees wont let him even attempt a comeback.

Deandre Swift - Most talented of this group. Has 2800 scrimmage yards in 3 years. That's a LOT of yards considering how often he has been hurt. Misses huge chunks of each season. Not completely.....he just can never stay healthy enough to touch the ball more than 5-10 a game. I would have given him another year.....but I understand wanting someone you can count on.

Jahmyr Gibbs - One practice. One injury.

That is one IMPRESSIVE list of RB's that had little to no impact because they couldn't stay on the field.

Dang. I blame myself on LeShoure.. Had to get his Jersey.

 

[boogerlovejoy]

Don't forget Reggie Bush injuries too in 2013/2014

Jamaal Williams stayed healthy!! And got 17 TDS for a franchise record

Joique Bell UDFA years too

Montgomery and Gibbs better stay healthy during the season

I think we should have kept Swift. Unless he told them he wanted a trade I would have tried to get one more year out of him. I know we got a 4th in '25 but with our RB injury history having 2 speed backs would have been a good thing.

 

[mhughes0021]

Ibrahim will be our starting RB by week 5. Book it.

 

[boogerlovejoy]

Ibrahim will be our starting RB by week 5. Book it.

Love that pickup. He's a tough runner with good vision.

Injury history and VERY limited pass catching opportunities. Read he is a solid route runner with decent hands, but Flecks offense doesn't call for a lot of opportunities for RB's to catch the ball.

 

[503]

Let?s all be real about our secondary, CBs. Yes we addressed it, but was it done in the right way.

Sutton, good signing. Average #1 CB in the NFL.

Moseley our #2 CB is coming back from a torn ACL. He?s played in over 12 games once in 5 seasons. Good chance we get under 10 games from him. No excuse, we knew this when we signed him.

CJ Gardner? Great signing but the guy is a Safety.

Branch?good pick but he?s a Safety

Guys?We have ONE reliable CB on the roster w no depth behind him. When one or two of our starting CBs get hurt, we can?t use that as an excuse.

 

[Mitchrapp]

You need S too.

 

[boogerlovejoy]

Let?s all be real about our secondary, CBs. Yes we addressed it, but was it done in the right way.

Sutton, good signing. Average #1 CB in the NFL.

Moseley our #2 CB is coming back from a torn ACL. He?s played in over 12 games once in 5 seasons. Good chance we get under 10 games from him. No excuse, we knew this when we signed him.

CJ Gardner? Great signing but the guy is a Safety.

Branch?good pick but he?s a Safety

Guys?We have ONE reliable CB on the roster w no depth behind him. When one or two of our starting CBs get hurt, we can?t use that as an excuse.

This from the guy who wanted to give Lamar Jackson $250M when he has missed 30% of each of the last 2 seasons AND the playoffs.

Sutton. Moseley. Jacobs. Lucas. Harris. While I do NOT love that group....there are solid players there and I have read a lot of good things about Lucas's off season. We'll see if that transfers to the playing field.

Add in Walker, CJGJ, Branch and Kirby and you have a group of guys that all have some coverage skills. That is clearly what they are targeting in a DB. Versatility. All 9 of the guys I mentioned are considered man coverage guys and the safetys in the group are all versatile safetys that lean much more toward coverage than traditional FS and SS.

There isn't a team in the league that wouldn't be hurt by losing 1 or 2 of their top CB's......but the Lions might actually be in a position to be LESS affected if that happens given the fact that so many of their guys can play M2M.