Bo Knew About Anderson

[byco42]

The current AG comes off as very progressive and ready to fight, but I read her first action as AG was to call off the investigation into the Flint Water Scandal that her predecessor (a Republican!) had started. FUCK!!!!

You simply cannot do the right thing, or even try to actually govern in America these days. The Evildoers have complete control, and they roll deep. Stick your neck out, and there are dozens of people ready to slice at it, knowing they'll be well-rewarded for "taking care" of you.

what to do about it?

Disengage from the matrix. Spend time with your family. Grow a garden. Have an escape plan. And a self-defense plan, that will blow up in seconds, but have one anyway. Question everything, all the time. But don't stand in front of the juggernaut. Keep shining a light on the element that runs the world, even though we do not know their names.

Is it out of the realm of reason to consider that these politicians and judges have been told, when necessary, "cross us, and we'll murder your whole family and blame it on you. We'll throw your children in a blender while you watch. We'll plant child porn on your PC. We'll kill you slowly and deliberately. Never, ever tell anyone this, or we'll show you we mean business." I don't; it makes perfect sense to me.

 

[Michchamp]

Disengage from the matrix. Spend time with your family. Grow a garden. Have an escape plan. And a self-defense plan, that will blow up in seconds, but have one anyway. Question everything, all the time. But don't stand in front of the juggernaut. Keep shining a light on the element that runs the world, even though we do not know their names.

Is it out of the realm of reason to consider that these politicians and judges have been told, when necessary, "cross us, and we'll murder your whole family and blame it on you. We'll throw your children in a blender while you watch. We'll plant child porn on your PC. We'll kill you slowly and deliberately. Never, ever tell anyone this, or we'll show you we mean business." I don't; it makes perfect sense to me.

We're on the same page with this.


I've been gardening a lot more lately. Some bastard - or bastards - keeps eating my tomatoes and peppers before I can harvest them.

 

[Michchamp]

Is anybody asking what Harbaugh knew, and when? Not that he would have had power to do anything, but he was there, his dad was there. If it was an open secret, they would know.

He said he knew Anderson in the 80's; the Harbaughs had gone to see him a few times, but he had no idea about any of this stuff and had no negative personal interactions with Anderson.



Predators usually don't target the kids who have fathers in positions of power and authority, and all through this Jack Harbaugh was on the staff.

 

[Gulo Blue]

Bo is our only statue, right?

 

[byco42]

Bo is our only statue, right?

If you don't count the lions that flank the entrance of the C.C. Little Building, or whatever it's called these days. And the fountain with Triton in it.

 

[Michchamp]

Bo is our only statue, right?

If you don't count the lions that flank the entrance of the C.C. Little Building, or whatever it's called these days. And the fountain with Triton in it.

(Touring Big Ten Landmarks) I guess the Triton fountain is named after former Michigan Supreme Court Chief Justice & later UM law school dean Thomas M. Cooley, who was later dishonered by notorious Michigan judge, Thomas E. Brennan, who founded the for-profit, bottom-feeder law school that carries Cooley's name in Lansing.



There are other sculptures/statues incorporated into buildings.


I know there's also a cannon from the Spanish American war near Angell Hall (on teh Diag side of the building), and assorted other monuments near it. But I don't remember any of them being statues that depicted human beings - real or mythological.



I rarely set foot on North Campus, so I'm not sure if there were any statues up there.

 

[Gulo Blue]

I wonder, if this came out 10 years ago, before the Sandusky scandal, if Michigan fans would have been more inclined to act like Penn State fans did with Paterno. Probably not with all the years that have gone by. Current students don't have the same attachment to Schembechler, while Paterno was still coaching. Still, I think our instinct to defend our own has dropped away because of all we've seen elsewhere.

 

[biggunsbob]

Screw Bo. Take everything down if he didn’t protect kids. Damn it all why would he protect this criminal!

 

[johnny2x2x]

I hope the University doesn't sandbag the investigation and drag its feet on this. Get his name off buildings and get on the right side of history.

There have been three other troubling issues at UM I read about in the last year or two: 1) a leader of the School of Public Health faced allegations of sexual abuse and misconduct, 2) there was some "smoke" in the Detroit papers about improprieties by the banksters who oversaw the University endowment, and 3) the University had developed formal ties with a CS professor that founded some sleazy startup and was using the CS dept. to recruit and use students as unpaid interns. All three of those have apparently been swept under the rug... haven't heard anything further about them.

I really don't want to see us become Michigan State or Ohio State...

I feel like the University resisted the "corporatization" and "crapification" of America longer than most institutions, but from some dealings I've had more recently with the alumni organization, and interactions with other alumni, I think we're heading to the same place as everything else (HELL).

You got some fucking nerve to say something like, “I hope the University doesn't sandbag the investigation and drag its feet on this.” When the current administration knew about it in 2018 and kept it quiet until a victim went to the press earlier this year.

This always sucks, MSU situation was horrible and several people screwed up, but at least Nassar wasn’t in the athletic department or working for the highest profile coach in school history for decades. Give me a fucking break with the not OSU or MSU bull shit. Your school buried this since 2018 after nearly 4 decades of the school allowing this monster to abuse hundreds of students. I mean Jesus, Nassar was a monster, but only a fraction of his victims were even MSU students. Wake the fuck up! This isn’t unique to UM, MSU, PSU, or OSU. All of the schools fucked up and handled the mess poorly after ducking up.

 

[tinselwolverine]

Screw Bo. Take everything down if he didn?t protect kids. Damn it all why would he protect this criminal!

I don?t know? For every player who complained, maybe there was another player who gave Bo a thumb up!

 

[Michchamp]

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There have been three other troubling issues at UM I read about in the last year or two: 1) a leader of the School of Public Health faced allegations of sexual abuse and misconduct, 2) there was some "smoke" in the Detroit papers about improprieties by the banksters who oversaw the University endowment, and 3) the University had developed formal ties with a CS professor that founded some sleazy startup and was using the CS dept. to recruit and use students as unpaid interns. All three of those have apparently been swept under the rug... haven't heard anything further about them.

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Well, that was fast. Regarding allegation #1, this was in the Freep today.

He "retires" and has been a prof/administrator at Michigan since 1995, so presumably he was close to retirement anyway. I assume he keeps whatever retirement/pension money he had. He was paid extremely well:

He joined the university in 1995 as a toxicology professor and eventually became dean of the School of Public Health. Philbert was appointed provost in 2017 and was paid $570,000 a year.
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No human being should make that much money/year!

At least he's not employed by our dear alma mater, I guess.

I still really don't want to see us become Michigan State or Ohio State...

 

[byco42]

Well, that was fast. Regarding allegation #1, this was in the Freep today.

He "retires" and has been a prof/administrator at Michigan since 1995, so presumably he was close to retirement anyway. I assume he keeps whatever retirement/pension money he had. He was paid extremely well:

He joined the university in 1995 as a toxicology professor and eventually became dean of the School of Public Health. Philbert was appointed provost in 2017 and was paid $570,000 a year.
​

No human being should make that much money/year!

At least he's not employed by our dear alma mater, I guess.

I still really don't want to see us become Michigan State or Ohio State...

For a society that is allegedly sexually liberated, it sure seems to enslave us.

 

[Michchamp]

For a society that is allegedly sexually liberated, it sure seems to enslave us.

I don't... think...


...wait WHAAAAT?

Consenting adults should be able to do whatever they want behind closed doors, and not worry about going to jail for it. Right?

And pay for it if they want to, or have to. (I've never had to pay for it... AWWWW YEAH!!!)

But people in positions of power should not take advantage of that power for sexual gratification. No one is "consenting" if their job and workplace environment is contingent about doing sexual favors for the boss. And if they do, it's incumbent on their managers to discipline them for this, up to and including being fired for it.

Philbert should've never gotten to the level of provost. The University dropped the ball here. Looks like they updated the article a bit, or maybe I linked the wrong one. There was a long pattern of behavior here.

Are we on the same page here?

 

[Gulo Blue]

For a society that is allegedly sexually liberated, it sure seems to enslave us.

We're just barely 'liberated' enough to discuss this in public and blame perpetrators instead of victims.

 

[byco42]

I don't... think...


...wait WHAAAAT?

Consenting adults should be able to do whatever they want behind closed doors, and not worry about going to jail for it. Right?

And pay for it if they want to, or have to. (I've never had to pay for it... AWWWW YEAH!!!)

But people in positions of power should not take advantage of that power for sexual gratification. No one is "consenting" if their job and workplace environment is contingent about doing sexual favors for the boss. And if they do, it's incumbent on their managers to discipline them for this, up to and including being fired for it.

Philbert should've never gotten to the level of provost. The University dropped the ball here. Looks like they updated the article a bit, or maybe I linked the wrong one. There was a long pattern of behavior here.

Are we on the same page here?

Partially: It?s a apple-cinder block thing. Sex is the motive power of our age. It?s being abused on a massive scale and spectrum. The ?consenting adults? aspect, though, accounts for a lot of misuse and tragedy, and the threads are long and weaving. Porn is a bald-faced evil activity. Evil on display, even with consent. Adultery, even between consenting adults, is wrong. Not a crime against the state, but against God.

 

[byco42]

We're just barely 'liberated' enough to discuss this in public and blame perpetrators instead of victims.

But so liberated as to display it in the public square as a means to entice people to purchase virtually everything imaginable.

 

[Gulo Blue]

But so liberated as to display it in the public square as a means to entice people to purchase virtually everything imaginable.

The fact that that works is more a symptom of our flaws than a root cause here through

 

[byco42]

The fact that that works is more a symptom of our flaws than a root cause here through

Agreed: The sin of Pride is the root cause of our flaws. Lust is also on the short list.

 

[Michchamp]

But so liberated as to display it in the public square as a means to entice people to purchase virtually everything imaginable.

Women in bikinis have been being used to sell products & films since the 60's.

Been like this for 50+ years. And the guys who push the envelop are not exactly very progressive-minded on social issues...

 

[byco42]

Women in bikinis have been being used to sell products & films since the 60's.

Been like this for 50+ years. And the guys who push the envelop are not exactly very progressive-minded on social issues...

It goes back further than the 1960s.