Police & Crime aka Man, Los Angeles County Sheriff Alex Villanueva is so Great

[Spartanmack]

Not that I am aware.



My favorite remains The Girl in the Plain Brown Wrapper.



Yet this was the only treatment of the Travis McGee character in cinema Based on the novel The Empty Copper Sea.

Sam Elliot wouldn't have been my 57th choice for the role of Travis.

wouldn't have been at the time or would you still say that even after he turned in that oscar worthy performance in Road House?

Note - I don't think he was actually nominated but he definitely should have been (Hollywood is very political)

 

[Spartanmack]

Well, he claims he?s a life long Democrat and always will be?but he?s not happy with the strengthening ?woke? progressive wing of the party, especially in LA County.

The Democratic machine supposedly got him elected Sheriff, I don?t know how many of those who were part of the machine that got him elected are still in power.

There are reports that the county Democrats feel betrayed by him.

EDIT: I just realized he?s kinda like Bill Maher that way - a devoted Dem not crazy about woke progressivism.

so the far left progressive base would definitely consider him a DINO. I'm cool with it - don't know much about the guy, but what I do know, I like.

 

[byco42]

wouldn't have been at the time or would you still say that even after he turned in that oscar worthy performance in Road House?

Note - I don't think he was actually nominated but he definitely should have been (Hollywood is very political)

Travis McGee was older, bigger and more vulnerable than Elliot. And I see no resemblance to the McGee persona in Elliot.

At least Tom Cruise captured the loner persona of Jack Reacher.

 

[Spartanmack]

Travis McGee was older, bigger and more vulnerable than Elliot. And I see no resemblance to the McGee persona in Elliot.

At least Tom Cruise captured the loner persona of Jack Reacher.

wasn't Jack Reacher supposed to be 6'4" and like 240lbs? I haven't read the books but the subject came up in conversation w/ my nephew and brother-in-law over vacation this summer - they said that Cruise was a disappointing casting decision.

sorry for taking this off-topic, but I can't resist making a Road House reference every chance I get. It's a compulsion

 

[tinselwolverine]

wouldn't have been at the time or would you still say that even after he turned in that oscar worthy performance in Road House?

Note - I don't think he was actually nominated but he definitely should have been (Hollywood is very political)

Travis McGee was earlier; but not as much as I would have thought.

Travis McGee was 1883; Road House 1989.

EDIT: ha! 1983.

 

[byco42]

wasn't Jack Reacher supposed to be 6'4" and like 240lbs? I haven't read the books but the subject came up in conversation w/ my nephew and brother-in-law over vacation this summer - they said that Cruise was a disappointing casting decision.

Yes, but I can look past the physical differences, because Cruise still acts like Reacher. I saw no effort on Elliot's part to attempt to capture McGee.

sorry for taking this off-topic, but I can't resist making a Road House reference every chance I get. It's a compulsion

Opinions vary.

 

[Spartanmack]

Opinions vary.

not about Road House! It's universally loved and recognized as one of the best films ever made. It's like The Bicycle Thief, The Godfather, Road House, Casablanca and Citizen Kane. Practically in a league of its own.

 

[Spartanmack]

Yes, but I can look past the physical differences, because Cruise still acts like Reacher. I saw no effort on Elliot's part to attempt to capture McGee.

They can't all be Daniel Day Lewis - who was probably also too young at the time that film was made.

 

[tinselwolverine]

not about Road House! It's universally loved and recognized as one of the best films ever made. It's like The Bicycle Thief, The Godfather, Road House, Casablanca and Citizen Kane. Practically in a league of its own.

No, byco?s right.

Take it from Dalton himself.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oeglesB0qDk

 

[Spartanmack]

No, byco?s right.

Take it from Dalton himself.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oeglesB0qDk

There?s an exception to every rule. Road House would be the exception that makes that a rule.

 

[Spartanmack]

This has to be the most surprising headline of 2021. Did anyone seriously think defunding police was a bad idea? They must not have taken enough money from the police budget. Everyone knows "less cops = less crime." Everyone.

 

[tinselwolverine]

This has to be the most surprising headline of 2021. Did anyone seriously think defunding police was a bad idea? They must not have taken enough money from the police budget. Everyone knows "less cops = less crime." Everyone.

Local ABC affiliate corroborates.

Because we know those Daily Wires, ya know, they have an agenda.

 

[Spartanmack]

Local ABC affiliate corroborates.

Because we know those Daily Wires, ya know, they have an agenda.

it does corroborate but with a very different flavor - the headline doesn't mention the cuts and elimination of a previously existing similar task force and the piece doesn't mention it until about half way through. It also doesn't mention the bit about the impact on morale saying just that the new unit will have 4 members assigned, no mention of the fact they could only get 4 applicants for 14 spots. Strange, it's almost as if they don't want their readers to have the full story.

 

[byco42]

It appears that Newsom is welcoming all the world?s homeless to live in CA because ?California?s dream is still alive and well.?

Link

From the article:

?With [Gascon?s] privileged upbringing, this doesn?t impact him,? Villanueva said. ?I have homeless with mental illness on the streets who attack residents, set their houses on fire, and run over them with cars. Just the sheer level of violence that comes with the increase in population of homeless is like pouring gasoline on the fire.?​

 

[Michchamp]

It appears that Newsom is welcoming all the world?s homeless to live in CA because ?California?s dream is still alive and well.?

Link

From the article:

?With [Gascon?s] privileged upbringing, this doesn?t impact him,? Villanueva said. ?I have homeless with mental illness on the streets who attack residents, set their houses on fire, and run over them with cars. Just the sheer level of violence that comes with the increase in population of homeless is like pouring gasoline on the fire.?​

Interesting framing. No deeper look at why homelessness is this growing problem. I guess people just decided they wanted to abandon their homes, live on the street and live lives of deprivation, violence, and squalor?

It's weird how people approach this issue/problem.

It's obvious (to me at least) that if you transfer massive amounts of wealth to the top 1%, and even more to the top 0.1%, the rest of everyone is going to have less. Less food, less healthcare (including mental health), less education, less consumer shit, and less housing. So... more homeless people.

The economy doesn't defy the laws of physics... conservation of matter here... there's only so much to go around.

Like the amounts of money dumped on business owners through PPP loans & that the Fed pumped into Wall Street (on top of an already long term, multi-decade trend in that direction) just meant they can buy more of what's available... leading to empty price inflation.

They seem to be really pushing this Villanueva guy. Giving him a lot of uncritical media coverage. Must be some big money interest behind him. Some LA real estate developer association or something?

 

[Michchamp]

I understand you guys read a lot of Christian/Conservative media, where in the tradition of Christ, the homeless/poor are all criminals, defective humans, and the ultimate solution to them may just be cops & bullets... but there IS another viewpoint out there, that takes a deeper look at the problem, and non-violent solutions like public housing and make work jobs are most cost-effective, and produce better results than sending cops out with assault rifles to bully homeless people (or shoot them?)

 

[byco42]

Interesting framing. No deeper look at why homelessness is this growing problem. I guess people just decided they wanted to abandon their homes, live on the street and live lives of deprivation, violence, and squalor?

It's weird how people approach this issue/problem.

It's obvious (to me at least) that if you transfer massive amounts of wealth to the top 1%, and even more to the top 0.1%, the rest of everyone is going to have less. Less food, less healthcare (including mental health), less education, less consumer shit, and less housing. So... more homeless people.

The economy doesn't defy the laws of physics... conservation of matter here... there's only so much to go around.

Like the amounts of money dumped on business owners through PPP loans & that the Fed pumped into Wall Street (on top of an already long term, multi-decade trend in that direction) just meant they can buy more of what's available... leading to empty price inflation.

They seem to be really pushing this Villanueva guy. Giving him a lot of uncritical media coverage. Must be some big money interest behind him. Some LA real estate developer association or something?

And, given these extremes, where would the likes of you or me more likely end up? As for Villanueva? No idea. He wanted the job, though.

 

[Michchamp]

And, given these extremes, where would the likes of you or me more likely end up? As for Villanueva? No idea. He wanted the job, though.

We won't end up homeless, but things we need will get more and more expensive. and we'll face more and more violence as income disparity continues to increase and more and more Americans are driven into deprivation.

where that goes, I'm not sure. We had the New Deal (and teh straight up planned and socialist economy of the WWII years) pull us out of the Depression.

I don't know if we'll be able to do that again, with global warming making it harder to grow food, and increasing coastal flooding, and the cost of real estate for much of the coastal areas where most people live.

 

[byco42]

I understand you guys read a lot of Christian/Conservative media, where in the tradition of Christ, the homeless/poor are all criminals, defective humans, and the ultimate solution to them may just be cops & bullets... but there IS another viewpoint out there, that takes a deeper look at the problem, and non-violent solutions like public housing and make work jobs are most cost-effective, and produce better results than sending cops out with assault rifles to bully homeless people (or shoot them?)

A bit disingenuous in regards to the ?Christian? attitude of the poor as you then link to an example that has nothing to do with the Christian approach to these same poor.

Especially given that there appear to be efforts to find housing for this select subset of homeless people, as you are advocating.

 

[Michchamp]

A bit disingenuous in regards to the ?Christian? attitude of the poor as you then link to an example that has nothing to do with the Christian approach to these same poor.

Especially given that there appear to be efforts to find housing for this select subset of homeless people, as you are advocating.

I'm not trying to dump on Jesus, just his so-called "followers."

Read an article yesterday that looked at comments on these homelessness articles, and yikes, there are a lot of psychotic Americans out there...