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Tigers 2022 Off Season for FA signings, trades, tender, nontender, Rule 5, to 2023

https://totallytigers.wordpress.com/2023/03/03/saturday-survey-67/
SATURDAY SURVEY.
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Jonathan Schoop is in the final year of his contract that will pay him $7.5 million. Last season was his worst year offensively, however his fielding was exceptional and earned him a Gold Glove nomination.

Scott Harris has declared that any players going forward must control the strike zone. Twice now, A. J. Hinch has commented on Schoop?s inability to do such and pointed out that he left 40 walks on the table with 3-0 counts on him last year. More if you include all at-bat situations.

Jonathan has a 37% chase rate, a 28% strikeout rate and walks only 3.7% of the time which is last in MLB.

Several days ago, Hinch hinted that there may be changes should Schoop not improve. What is not being said openly is that Schoop may be platooned if things don?t change.

In any case, it is highly unlikely that the Tigers will extend Schoop after this year as they did after 2021.

He remains one of the Tigers? more expensive players and the organization must now have to consider trading him before the end of the year in order to try to get something in return. In need of acquiring as much talent as possible, they will probably not want him to walk and get nothing in return.

There is value in acquiring a top defensive player, esp. one who plays up the middle for a playoff-bound team.

So what is the best strategy for the team to follow? Giving him as much playing time as possible in order to showcase him as potential trade bait? Or giving him limited playing time (and thus decreasing his value) if he struggles at the plate once again?

What should the Tigers do with Jonathan Schoop this year?

1. Play him in order to trade him and get something in return.

2. Platoon him with a better offensive player.

VOTE
 
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/03/tigers-sign-trevor-rosenthal-to-minor-league-deal.html
Tigers Sign Trevor Rosenthal To Minor League Deal.
MLBTR

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/...-rosenthal-minor-league-contract/69972265007/
Detroit Tigers sign reliever Trevor Rosenthal to minor-league deal with MLB camp invite.
Freep

https://www.mlive.com/tigers/2023/0...-healthy-and-hungry-for-another-comeback.html
Trevor Rosenthal arrives in Lakeland, healthy and hungry for another comeback.
Mlive
 
https://totallytigers.wordpress.com/2023/03/11/deeper-discussions-64/
DEEPER DISCUSSIONS.

Matthew Boyd is back in Detroit and at top form. He?s added new pitches, throwing in the 90?s and is controlling the strike zone. In multiple appearances, he?s walked only 1 player. In his last game, he struck out 7 in 3 innings.

Everyone in MLB is noticing. And Boyd is giving credit to his former and current boss, Scott Harris and the Giants? pitching lab where he spent last year perfecting his arsenal. And now, he?s also giving thanks to Chris Fetter.

The national writers are also taking note. They are speculating that Boyd will be traded later this year if he keeps up this level of performance.

Matt is on a 1-year deal for $10 mill. He is 32 years old and his agent is Scott Boras.

Which brings us to the question of selling off talent vs. keeping it. Dave Dombrowski usually won trades as GM for the Tigers but his successor was notoriously poor at getting value in return.

At what point do the Tigers stop trading away talent? Or do they need to continue shedding it for the next year or two in an effort to build the roster and add better players? Can they improve their roster via the farm system or are there too many holes to fill? If the former, how long would it take?

Should they re-sign Boyd and use him as a cornerstone of the starting rotation or should they trade him later this summer to a team thick in contention and in desperate need of an excellent starting pitcher? If Boyd continues his excellent performance, the Tigers could fetch a significant return despite his ?rental? status. Starting pitching is a very valuable trade piece.

What do you think the Tiger should do?

Today?s blog addresses this dilemma and allows readers to share their thoughts in more detail. And hopefully, to actively engage with others by responding to their posts and creating back-and-forth discussion threads. The more the merrier!

For this one blog only, you?ve got 6 sentences max to share your thoughts. Of course, you can respond to as many other readers as you want.

TT will supply the ammunition. One thought-provoking question. Several options provided. One hard choice to be selected. One vote.
Ready?

If he excels this year, what should the Tigers do with Matthew Boyd?

1. Trade him to help build a better roster.

2. Keep him as the cornerstone of the starting rotation.

VOTE
 
After his impressive performance in the World Baseball Classic, Nicaraguan Duque Hebbert signed a Minor League contract with the Detroit Tigers.

Against the Dominican Republic, Hebbert took a strikeout scone:

1. Juan Soto
2. Julio Rodriguez
3. Rafael Devers

https://twitter.com/i/status/1635379163254362112

signed with DET..some filthy offspeed..which plays well in relief..doesn't seem to have ever played in the minor leagues..21 years old.
 
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https://totallytigers.wordpress.com/2023/04/11/watercooler-wednesday-80/
WATERCOOLER WEDNESDAY.
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Today, another opportunity for readers to discuss the hottest topics in a forum where thoughtful dialog and a variety of opinions are welcomed.

Let?s create some running conversational threads. And for those of you back in actual offices, here?s a question to take with you ? or use via Zoom ? as you talk to your co-workers.

Here is today?s topic??..

For multiple years now, the Detroit Tigers have failed to control the strike zone, leading them to sit at the bottom of most offensive categories. Last year, they set a record for lowest offense.

PoBO Scott Harris said that controlling the strike zone ? on both sides of the plate ? is the priority. Teams with hitters who do that best score more runs and get to play October baseball.

In the Tigers first 9 games of this year, they have MLB?s 3rd highest strikeout rate (26.9%), 5th lowest walk rate (7.4%), 5th highest chase rate (32.4%) and the sixth-lowest contact rate (73.5%).

The team hired Anthony Iapoce, a well-known hitting guru to take over AAA Toledo and instill a more disciplined hitting strategy with their prospects. They also hired well-known hitting coaches for the MLB level.

But it does take time for coaches to get to know players and figure out how to best advise them. And the learning process is not linear. It takes awhile for players to practice at a level where new techniques come more easily and consistently.

But how much change can Detroit?s new coaches inspire? Do results come mainly from coaching or from talent? Or is it a bit of both?

Currently, we are seeing very little proof that Detroit?s hitters have changed their approach at the plate. Is it too early?

Will it take longer? Or is this something that is too hard to change?

When do you believe we will start to see fewer strikeouts, more walks and a lower chase rate?
When do you believe we will start to see improvement in controlling the strike zone?

1. 1-2 months.

2. Second half of the season.

3. Not with this current group of players.

VOTE
 
https://totallytigers.wordpress.com/2023/04/11/watercooler-wednesday-80/
WATERCOOLER WEDNESDAY.
Totally Tigers

Today, another opportunity for readers to discuss the hottest topics in a forum where thoughtful dialog and a variety of opinions are welcomed.

Let?s create some running conversational threads. And for those of you back in actual offices, here?s a question to take with you ? or use via Zoom ? as you talk to your co-workers.

Here is today?s topic??..

For multiple years now, the Detroit Tigers have failed to control the strike zone, leading them to sit at the bottom of most offensive categories. Last year, they set a record for lowest offense.

PoBO Scott Harris said that controlling the strike zone ? on both sides of the plate ? is the priority. Teams with hitters who do that best score more runs and get to play October baseball.

In the Tigers first 9 games of this year, they have MLB?s 3rd highest strikeout rate (26.9%), 5th lowest walk rate (7.4%), 5th highest chase rate (32.4%) and the sixth-lowest contact rate (73.5%).

The team hired Anthony Iapoce, a well-known hitting guru to take over AAA Toledo and instill a more disciplined hitting strategy with their prospects. They also hired well-known hitting coaches for the MLB level.

But it does take time for coaches to get to know players and figure out how to best advise them. And the learning process is not linear. It takes awhile for players to practice at a level where new techniques come more easily and consistently.

But how much change can Detroit?s new coaches inspire? Do results come mainly from coaching or from talent? Or is it a bit of both?

Currently, we are seeing very little proof that Detroit?s hitters have changed their approach at the plate. Is it too early?

Will it take longer? Or is this something that is too hard to change?

When do you believe we will start to see fewer strikeouts, more walks and a lower chase rate?
When do you believe we will start to see improvement in controlling the strike zone?

1. 1-2 months.

2. Second half of the season.

3. Not with this current group of players.

VOTE

I don't think you just "change" players approach to the game. If Harris wants a team that "controls the strike zone", he has to get players that already have that trait.

Players can be refined, but if a guy is a "free swinger", it is very likely that he is going to be that way in the future.
 
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