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Lou Holtsssschzz

I used to love IPAs, then I started to get sick of them, then I read brewers were dirisively calling such offerings "hops bombs" and I realized other people were getting sick of them too.

then I read an article about how hops when consumed lead to higher estrogen levels in men, or are metabolized into estrogen or something; it was widely reported, though that doesnt mean its true, and while i havent been able to confirm it.

seems like more of a question for Gulo
 
I used to love IPAs, then I started to get sick of them, then I read brewers were dirisively calling such offerings "hops bombs" and I realized other people were getting sick of them too.

then I read an article about how hops when consumed lead to higher estrogen levels in men, or are metabolized into estrogen or something; it was widely reported, though that doesnt mean its true, and while i havent been able to confirm it.

seems like more of a question for Gulo

I've read this. My understanding is that hops and a lot of other plants people consume do contain the plant equivalent to estrogen. Are plant estrogens similar enough to human estrogen to have a similar effect? I don't know. Some people think that's the cause behind brewer's droop. But it could also just be the effect of drinking too much alcohol.

I still think regular old IPAs are good, but yes, the old "if some is good, more is better" mentality has been applied to IPAs. Naturally. It's tough to do something to stand out.

Just mix it up. If you've been drinking overhopped beers and you're getting sick of them, give it a break, and then come back and try a Two Hearted after drinking sweet and dark beers for a while. At least that's what I like to do. Fortunately, seasonal beers are seasonal.
 
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http://beerandwinejournal.com/ipa-boobs/

This article says that no link between beer consumption and manboobs was found in 2 studies, but it has been suggested that women working in hops processing plants may have irregular menstrual cycles.

A Spanish study says erectile dysfunction from heavy drinking can last for months after giving up alcohol, but it doesn't mention hops.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/news/9812293/Brewers-droop-can-hang-around-for-months.html

This study found phytoestrogen in beer that can bind to rat estrogen receptors. But it says the levels are low enough to not be a concern.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10372741 (Don't forget, some amount is normal. Men and women have both estrogen and testosterone, just in different ratios.)
 
It should be noted that I've been crushing some Sam Adams Cold Snap tonight and it's fucking delicious. All you beer snobs that like to look down your nose at SA can suckadick because it's fuckin delicious.

Carry on.
 
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Oh, and if hops will make me impotent, I guess it's time to start drinking more hoppy beer. More time for drinking, less time spent on "other things".
 
It should be noted that I've been crushing some Sam Adams Cold Snap tonight and it's fucking delicious. All you beer snobs that like to look down your nose at SA can suckadick because it's fuckin delicious.

Carry on.

Sam Adams makes some really good beers. I'm not sure I remember Cold Snap, but they make one called Latitude 48 that's great.
 
Sam Adams makes some really good beers. I'm not sure I remember Cold Snap, but they make one called Latitude 48 that's great.

Cold snap is the seasonal from January to March. It's out now. Give it a try and tell me it's not amazing.
 
http://beerandwinejournal.com/ipa-boobs/

This article says that no link between beer consumption and manboobs was found in 2 studies, but it has been suggested that women working in hops processing plants may have irregular menstrual cycles.

A Spanish study says erectile dysfunction from heavy drinking can last for months after giving up alcohol, but it doesn't mention hops.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/news/9812293/Brewers-droop-can-hang-around-for-months.html

This study found phytoestrogen in beer that can bind to rat estrogen receptors. But it says the levels are low enough to not be a concern.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10372741 (Don't forget, some amount is normal. Men and women have both estrogen and testosterone, just in different ratios.)

All I know is, the last guy I dated drank nothing but IPAs and he was a little bitch.
 
I'm burnt out on IPAs for the most part. There are only two left that I drink. Sun King Osiris made here in Indy and Founder's All Day IPA. Neither are overly hoppy.

I'm a big fan of sour beers these days. I just tried one from Sam Adams last weekend called Kosmic Mother Funk. Flipping delicious!

I have also never understood the hate towards Sam Adams. They were a pioneer in the craft beer industry and make great beers. I respect that.
 
All I know is, the last guy I dated drank nothing but IPAs and he was a little bitch.

That's hilarious!

I'm not a fan of sour beer but I've only tried a few so far. I love IPAs and pretty much any fall and winter seasonal. I don't understand the Sam Adams hate either. Beer snobs are stupid if they think their favorite local brewery wouldn't love to have the money and distribution that Sam Adams has grown to. I love their commercials where they trick the beer snobs into telling them it's good. Except I want to punch the one guy in the face because he looks like a douche.
 
That's hilarious!

I'm not a fan of sour beer but I've only tried a few so far. I love IPAs and pretty much any fall and winter seasonal. I don't understand the Sam Adams hate either. Beer snobs are stupid if they think their favorite local brewery wouldn't love to have the money and distribution that Sam Adams has grown to. I love their commercials where they trick the beer snobs into telling them it's good. Except I want to punch the one guy in the face because he looks like a douche.

Sour beers aren't for everyone. I'm a person who eats lemons so I'm in their target audience. I got my best friend, who is not a sour beer fan, to come around on one sour beer made in Indiana. It's an apricot sour and quite tasty.

I am a seasonal beer fan in general. It's tough for me to choose between summer, fall, or winter as my favorite. I would say I lean more summer and fall. I do love pumpkin beers and that probably ends up tipping the scale in fall seasonal's favor overall.
 
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It should be noted that I've been crushing some Sam Adams Cold Snap tonight and it's fucking delicious. All you beer snobs that like to look down your nose at SA can suckadick because it's fuckin delicious.

Carry on.

I like Sam Adams. A buddy of mine lives in Boston and we visited their small-batch innovation brewery while I was there. It seemed like some of the large-ish craft beer distributors you'd see in NYC, DC, and other east coast cities hadn't quite taken hold in Boston, and I think Sam Adams is a better than decent alternative.
 
That's hilarious!

I'm not a fan of sour beer but I've only tried a few so far. I love IPAs and pretty much any fall and winter seasonal. I don't understand the Sam Adams hate either. Beer snobs are stupid if they think their favorite local brewery wouldn't love to have the money and distribution that Sam Adams has grown to. I love their commercials where they trick the beer snobs into telling them it's good. Except I want to punch the one guy in the face because he looks like a douche.

Seriously. He never made a single plan, I always did. The last straw was when I flat out told him to make plans and let me know where to meet, didn't hear from him all day until it got late then he said he wished we could have gotten together. FOR REAL?! I mean good grief. I'm a single mom and the only person in my department at work which means I call most of the shots all damn day, step up and take control for once. ;-P

Forget the beer, give me some Coke to go with the Jack and I'm a happy girl. Coke as in Coca-Cola, not cocaine!
 
There weren't a lot of craftbrews yet when I was in HS. back then we thought Labatts was the shit. or corona. so exotic!

of course, being under 21, beggars couldnt be choosers... you drank whatever you could get.
 
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