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Tigers Sign Eduardo Rodriguez, Injured finger, now possible opt out or trade

kalinecountry said:
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podca...h-injuries-heres/id1674627945?i=1000615217851
Days of Roar Tigers Podcast: Eduardo Rodriguez, Riley Greene out with injuries: Here's what we learned from two doctors. 35 minutes.

With both Eduardo Rodriguez and Riley Greene heading to the injured list, the Free Press talked to two orthopedic surgeons to learn more about their injuries.

How long should we expect E-Rod or Greene to be out? What does this mean for the Detroit Tigers' chances of taking the AL Central?
What about the trade deadline? Who could the team potentially call up?
Who should they call up? Mark and Evan go over these questions and more in this emergency podcast edition of "Days of Roar."
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https://totallytigers.wordpress.com/2023/07/01/deeper-discussions-77/
DEEPER DISCUSSIONS.
Totally Tigers

The Detroit Tigers have been trying to assemble a starting rotation as part of their rebuild. There are many new faces.

There have also been lots of injuries which have delayed plans and player development.

Detroit is expected to lose Eduardo Rodriguez to an opt-out clause. Matthew Boyd just had Tommy John surgery and his contract expires in 3 months. Michael Lorenzen is on a 1-year contract as well.

Spencer Turnbull has been on the 60-day IL and has 1 more year left until he becomes a free agent. His agent is Scott Boras and it appears very clear that Turnbull will not be with the team beyond next year at the latest.

Here is the current list of potential starting pitchers who all have experience pitching in Detroit.

1.Beau Brieske

2. Alex Faedo

3. Matt Manning

4. Casey Mize

5. Reese Olson

6. Tarik Skubal

7. Joey Wentz

Which of these pitchers do you believe has the best chance of being successful and sticking in the starting rotation for at least the next 2 seasons (through 2025 or longer)?

Which pitcher has the best chance of sticking in the starting rotation for at least the next 2 years?

1. Beau Brieske

2. Alex Faedo

3. Matt Manning

4. Casey Mize

5. Reese Olson

6. Tarik Skubal

7. Joey Wentz

VOTE
 
https://totallytigers.wordpress.com/2023/08/02/pieces-of-the-puzzle-part-one/
PIECES OF THE PUZZLE ? Part One.
Totally Tigers

Oh my, what an ugly week this has been so far. So many Tiger fans up in arms. I even heard that all the Detroit-area hardware stores were sold out of torches and pitchforks.

More than a few fans were calling for Scott Harris? head. They wanted him fired for making 1 mistake. All of this for a man who has only spent 10 months on the job.

I guess after all those decades of incompetent sports team leaders, fans have been conditioned to automatically turn every top Detroit team exec into either Matt Millen or Randy Smith.

But what struck me was the sudden rush to judgment that this was all Scott Harris? fault. Blame assigned within nanoseconds and an impatience to wait for the facts to come out.

To assume incompetence is the answer without exploring the facts and rationale is lazy and negligent. But I get the fact that when something like this happens, fans get upset and jump to conclusions because of the need to expel their frustration and anger.

Truth is, folks, anytime you put a group of people together to hammer out a deal, it?s likely to be complicated. You?re dealing with human nature which is unpredictable most of the time.

I learned long ago that things are rarely black and white. Most of the time, we live in a grey world.

And the trade deadline is a classic example.

It?s so easy to come to an all-or-nothing decision instead of digging through information to discover what was really going on. The latter takes time and energy, which many simply don?t want to do.

And for fans ? which is short for ?fanatics? ? many allow themselves to be ruled by emotion.

It?s some of these same fans who have accused me of making excuses for Scott Harris simply because of the facts I pointed out yesterday. Facts that didn?t support a singular blame game.

You should know me better than that if you?ve been reading TT for awhile. This blog has always been about discussing the unvarnished truth ? both the good and the bad. There is no rush to judgment here.

There is, however, a gathering of facts.

The truth is that there were so many players (not just of the athletic kind) involved ? both past and present. A complicated contract. A player with baggage. People in charge who we either don?t know or have little info to go on. And little understanding of how deals and trades are made.

This turned out to be the perfect storm of misadventure.

And it can?t be blamed on just one person.

This is turning out to be a bigger story than anyone imagined. So much so that we?re going to split this blog into 2 parts. Today, we?re going to share the facts leading up to the final decision. We?re also going to ask a lot of questions.

Tomorrow, we?re going to address what this means for the Tigers going forward.

Let?s now get out our biggest, baddest shovels and dig in?.....
 
IF he wanted an extra $20M to not opt out and for another year on the contract...was that an extra year for $20M or $20M + another year at +/- $18M ???
 
https://totallytigers.wordpress.com/2023/08/03/pieces-of-the-puzzle-part-two/
PIECES OF THE PUZZLE ? Part Two.
Totally Tigers

You knew it was coming. I told you yesterday that it would.

And sure enough, the details of the failed trade between the Tigers and Dodgers are leaking out.

Too many people left with egg on their faces. Too many experienced people for something like this to happen.

Too many people shocked at the outcome.

Too many PoBos making stifled diplomatic comments to explain what happened.

Many of you knew the facts as presented didn?t add up. It meant there were rogue factors at play.

And now some of the people who were involved in the work are speaking anonymously. They?re clarifying that ERod was a willing trade partner and that both teams communicated often and effectively with him. And that his rationale for blocking the trade doesn?t hold water.

Let?s summarize what really happened. Here?s what various members of the media have verified:

E-Rod and his agent did this....
 
https://totallytigers.wordpress.com/2023/08/04/saturday-survey-89/
SATURDAY SURVEY.
Totally Tigers

Earlier this week, the Detroit Tigers lost out on trading Eduardo Rodriguez to the LA Dodgers.

ERod and his agent were willing participants in negotiating a move to Los Angeles and did not find his no-trade clause to be an issue in the beginning. Despite negotiations being green-lighted throughout the week, Rodriguez and his agent surprised all parties by turning down the deal with less than an hour before the trade deadline. That prevented both the Tigers and Dodgers from pivoting to a backup deal with another team that they had assembled ? but not finalized.

ERod?s explanation was that he did not feel comfortable moving to a first place team that was expected to make the playoffs. A team in which 3 of his closest friends also played. An explanation that surprised many GMs and managers. He said he loved Detroit but wouldn?t commit to staying beyond this year.

His agent explained that the decision was made in order for his client to remain close to his family. (There are conflicting reports about whether his family actually live in Detroit or Miami during the season.) It was a move that would only last for 2 months.

As we learned later, the negotiations were based upon about ERod?s desire to add more money and perks to the contract. When he didn?t get them all, that?s when he invoked his no-trade clause.

It is the 3rd time that Eduardo has been tied to controversy while with the Tigers, including last year?s ghosting of the team for almost 2 months due to marital problems.
So what do you think about how ERod handled the trade deadline negotiations?

How did Eduardo Rodriguez handle the trade deadline negotiations?

1. He had every right to make the decision he did.

2. His unpredictable nature is a cause of concern.

3. He was unprofessional and disrespectful of the Tigers and Dodgers.

VOTE
 
kalinecountry said:
https://totallytigers.wordpress.com/2023/08/04/saturday-survey-89/
SATURDAY SURVEY.
Totally Tigers

Earlier this week, the Detroit Tigers lost out on trading Eduardo Rodriguez to the LA Dodgers.

ERod and his agent were willing participants in negotiating a move to Los Angeles and did not find his no-trade clause to be an issue in the beginning. Despite negotiations being green-lighted throughout the week, Rodriguez and his agent surprised all parties by turning down the deal with less than an hour before the trade deadline. That prevented both the Tigers and Dodgers from pivoting to a backup deal with another team that they had assembled ? but not finalized.

ERod?s explanation was that he did not feel comfortable moving to a first place team that was expected to make the playoffs. A team in which 3 of his closest friends also played. An explanation that surprised many GMs and managers. He said he loved Detroit but wouldn?t commit to staying beyond this year.

His agent explained that the decision was made in order for his client to remain close to his family. (There are conflicting reports about whether his family actually live in Detroit or Miami during the season.) It was a move that would only last for 2 months.

As we learned later, the negotiations were based upon about ERod?s desire to add more money and perks to the contract. When he didn?t get them all, that?s when he invoked his no-trade clause.

It is the 3rd time that Eduardo has been tied to controversy while with the Tigers, including last year?s ghosting of the team for almost 2 months due to marital problems.
So what do you think about how ERod handled the trade deadline negotiations?

How did Eduardo Rodriguez handle the trade deadline negotiations?

1. He had every right to make the decision he did.

2. His unpredictable nature is a cause of concern.

3. He was unprofessional and disrespectful of the Tigers and Dodgers.

VOTE
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I voted #1 because that is the only fact. #2 has been true since he has been here...probably before he got here. #3 is horseshit. It's a business. He has a contract and he was trying to get more money out of the Dodgers in order to move...he has every right to do so.
 
It could be worse. Angels 0-5 since trade deadline, now . 500 and got nothing for Ohtani. Heh.
 
https://totallytigers.wordpress.com/2023/08/05/deeper-discussions-82/
DEEPER DISCUSSIONS.
Totally Tigers

Last week, the Detroit Tigers were unable to trade Eduardo Rodriguez at the deadline. There was controversy attached to both sides. To the Tigers and Dodgers for not getting a deal done, and to Rodriguez and his agent for the perception that they pulled the rug out from under the 2 teams at the very last minute.

After this year, he has 3 years remaining on his contract that are considered well-priced. But it is widely expected that he will opt out of his contract in order to pursue a newer, higher-priced one. If he does leave, the Tigers will receive no compensation.

We did learn that ERod is looking for a contract that will pay him at least $20 mill/year. And considering that he is already 30 years old, he will want a longer contract to take him to potentially the end of his career. Probably somewhere around 5 years with a potential option year.

Currently, he has 3 years left that averages out to $15 mill/year.

If Rodriguez does not stay with the team under the current contract conditions, there is only 1 other option remaining.

To extend ERod.

But should the Tigers?

Of course, he?s been their #1 starter. But also consider that ERod has shown his unpredictable side, first by ghosting his team for almost 2 months last year and then creating a ?me-first? moment this year by refusing to coordinate a game strategy with his catcher on a start day. And now, a botched trade deal at the last minute.

On the other hand, if the Tigers don?t extend him, do they have another veteran starting pitcher who can anchor the rotation? With Michael Lorenzen now gone, will one of the other pitchers step up? Will some of the promising younger talent come into their own in 2024? Will the Tigers be able to trade for another dependable arm to fill the hole left by ERod?

Will the pitching team of Fetter, Nieves and Lund be able to continue to work their magic with the rest of the starting pitchers?

Today?s blog addresses this dilemma and allows readers to share their thoughts in more detail. And hopefully, to actively engage with others by responding to their posts and creating back-and-forth discussion threads. The more the merrier!

For this one blog only, you?ve got 6 sentences max to share your thoughts. Of course, you can also respond to other readers.

TT will supply the ammunition. One thought-provoking question. Several options provided. One hard choice to be selected. One vote.
Ready?

Should the Tigers extend Eduardo Rodriguez's contract?

1. Yes, keep him and extend the contract.

2. No, allow him to opt out and leave the team.

VOTE
 
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